Tony24 Posted August 4, 2019 at 03:38 AM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 03:38 AM Hi everyone! I need help with the position of 只 I only want to speak with you 我只想跟你说 我想只跟你说 I’ll quickly tell you about my problem. I really don’t know where to put chinese adverbs in chinese sentences, especially when it comes to modal verbs. I’ve read lots and lots of articles, exercise books etc ... but I still can’t understand that! Will you help me? Quote
abcdefg Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:32 AM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:32 AM Put the adverb before the verb. https://resources.allsetlearning.com/chinese/grammar/Beginner_Guide_to_Chinese_Grammar#Word_Order Quote Adverbs are words that modify verbs and adjectives. In Chinese, the adverb always goes before the verb or adjective. Instead of saying "I run also," proper grammar in Chinese would be "I also run." It's very consistent in Chinese. Therefore, in your example: (It's not a great sentence. Too much ambiguity.) 20 hours ago, Tony24 said: I only want to speak with you = 我只想跟你说 Quote
Zbigniew Posted August 4, 2019 at 12:55 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 12:55 PM Don't forget that "manner adverbial phrases" do come after the verb, e.g. 你们都考得好。("You all did well in the exam".) Quote
889 Posted August 4, 2019 at 04:07 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 04:07 PM As always, consider first not word-for-word translation but your underlying meaning. Cf: -- I want a brief chat with you, it'll take just a sec. -- I've only one desire in the whole world, to speak with you. -- I want to speak with you, and nothing more, I promise. -- I want to speak with you, not anyone else. -- I alone want to speak with you, nobody else does. Quote
mungouk Posted August 4, 2019 at 06:23 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 06:23 PM 2 hours ago, 889 said: -- I want a brief chat with you, it'll take just a sec. -- I've only one desire in the whole world, to speak with you. -- I want to speak with you, and nothing more, I promise. -- I want to speak with you, not anyone else. -- I alone want to speak with you, nobody else does. Yes, exactly. And how would you write those in Chinese so as to differentiate the nuances? Quote
889 Posted August 4, 2019 at 07:04 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 07:04 PM No no no. The honour is yours. 1 Quote
Publius Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:40 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:40 PM 11 hours ago, mungouk said: 13 hours ago, 889 said: -- I want a brief chat with you, it'll take just a sec. -- I've only one desire in the whole world, to speak with you. -- I want to speak with you, and nothing more, I promise. -- I want to speak with you, not anyone else. -- I alone want to speak with you, nobody else does. Yes, exactly. And how would you write those in Chinese so as to differentiate the nuances? 我有几句话要跟你说。 我只想能跟你说说话。 我只是想跟你谈谈。 有些话我只想跟你说。 只有我愿意跟你说话。 respectively. Quote
Zbigniew Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:47 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 10:47 PM My stab at it (just beaten to it by Publius): -- I want a brief chat with you, it'll take just a sec. 我想和你说几句话,就几句。 -- I've only one desire in the whole world, to speak with you. 我在这个世界上唯一的愿望就是和你说话。 -- I want to speak with you, and nothing more, I promise. 我就想和你说话,不作别的,我保证。 -- I want to speak with you, not anyone else. 我想和你,而不是别人,说话。 -- I alone want to speak with you, nobody else does. 除了我,没有人想和你说话。 Quote
889 Posted August 4, 2019 at 11:18 PM Report Posted August 4, 2019 at 11:18 PM The point is that in spoken English we can -- and very very often do -- use verbal stress to indicate the meaning. Cf: I only want to SPEAK with you. I only want to speak with YOU. Very different meanings in English! Offhand, I don't THINK Chinese has the same feature, but use of stress to differentiate meaning is so instinctive to a native English speaker, I'm sure I carry the practice over when speaking Chinese. Quote
mungouk Posted August 5, 2019 at 07:06 AM Report Posted August 5, 2019 at 07:06 AM On 8/4/2019 at 11:38 AM, Tony24 said: 我想只跟你说 So how about 我想跟你只说... Would that be grammatically correct, and does it have the meaning of I only want to speak with you (and nothing else)....? Quote
陳德聰 Posted August 5, 2019 at 08:03 AM Report Posted August 5, 2019 at 08:03 AM Mm... But Chinese does use stress to change pragmatic meaning. 我[只]想跟你說... I just want to talk with you, that's all (nothing more) 我[只(是)想]跟你說... I just want to talk to you, but it's not like I absolutely must, I guess 我只想跟你[說]... I just want to talk with you, not some other activity 我只想跟[你]說... I only want to talk to you and not someone else [我]只想跟你說... I want to tell you something, coming from me and not somebody else In all of these situations you absolutely can use just stress accent to make contrastive focus happen. Quote
New Members Luo lǎo shī Posted November 7, 2021 at 09:17 PM New Members Report Posted November 7, 2021 at 09:17 PM When you try to find where to put specific adverb in the sentence, you need to think about what "the adverb" is modifying. In your question: "I only want to speak with you." Let's ask this question "What does person only do?", the answer is "to want to speak with you". So the adverb "only" will be put in front of what it is modifying "want to speak with you". In Chinese, it will be 我 只 想跟你说. Another example, "We like to watch TV together." Let's ask the question again "What exactly takes place together?", the answer is "to watch TV". So the adverb "together" will be put in front of what it is modifying "to watch TV". In Chinese, it will be 我们 喜欢 一起看电视. 1 Quote
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