HSK 3.0 ... new, new HSK?

[shawky.nasr]

2 hours ago, alantin said:

The 汉子.csv only seems to have a little over 1000 lines. Is that right?

full version 1.1 (csv and excel)

[mikelove]

There seem to be some bugs, e.g. #3429 in the word list is listed as 花 instead of 护照.

EDIT: looks like there are maybe two dozen bugs like this in all, after a quick check against our OCR'ed list. And the issue is definitely on their original website, not on @shawky.nasr's end:

 

[shawky.nasr]

40 minutes ago, mikelove said:

#3429 in the word list is listed as 花 instead of 护照.

Thanks, i fixed.

 

There are some typo from their data, i am comparing now two file.

[shawky.nasr]

Fixed typo: link

[TaxiAsh]

New film from Mandarin Corner Eileen... 

 

Worth a watch, as she is generally in the know...

 

She says all put off now, but new 789 will be a new addition next year.

 

She posted this 12 hours ago (24th May 2021)

 

https://youtu.be/MAOd0GJREwY

[shawky.nasr]

Fixed all of typos.

 

HSK official Query System 2.0

 

 

[叫我小山]

After going through the new list I only see 1,500 individual characters. If this new list is to include 3,000 characters then are the other 1,500 included in other words? I assume some characters cannot be used in a stand-alone manner, so maybe that’s the case, but can anyone confirm this for me?

[shawky.nasr]

5 hours ago, 叫我小山 said:

I only see 1,500 individual characters

There are 3149 characters.

[大块头]

Taking the wordlist from Mike's GitHub repo, removing the English preamble text and analyzing it with Python, I count 2991 unique characters. Accounting for Roman numerals and punctuation, that works out to 2972 Chinese characters.

 

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[大块头]

HSK 7-9 trial exams

 

The following advertisement been circulating in the Thai CSL community. I can't speak Thai (maybe @Xiao Kui is around?), but it appears that the trial exams will be free and that an HSK 6 certificate is required to apply. They'll take place on May 15, 2022.

 

The QR code leads to this registration link. The testing location question at the bottom lists testing centers in China, Thailand, Korea, Malaysia, and the Philippines. I'm not sure if these trial exams have been widely announced in the other countries?

 

We can confirm that the 7-9 exam does include a translation component though. One of the registration questions asks you to choose which language you would like to translate into Chinese on the exam. The languages listed are English, Japanese, Korean, Thai, and Vietnamese.

 

[Demonic_Duck]

On 4/27/2022 at 9:44 PM, 大块头 said:

We can confirm that the 7-9 exam does include a translation component though. One of the registration questions asks you to choose which language you would like to translate into Chinese on the exam. The languages listed are English, Japanese, Korean, Thai, and Vietnamese.

 

Ugh, I still think that's idiotic for a language proficiency test. Plus it discriminates against L1 speakers of minority languages that presumably won't be supported.

[shawky.nasr]

2022-05-17

HSK高等（7-9级）考试试测成功举办

[chabei]

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On 5/17/2022 at 3:42 AM, shawky.nasr said:

HSK高等（7-9级）考试试测成功举办

 

 

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The currently ongoing HSK level 1-6 test will not be adjusted in difficulty in the next few years.

 

Oop. About what we expected. 

Edited May 17, 2022 at 08:33 PM by chabei

[大块头]

I asked on Reddit to see if anybody there took the trial HSK 7-9 exam on Sunday, and one person replied.

• There was not a section that tested your handwriting ability, contrary to what the standards suggested.
• No 病句 questions were on the exam.
• There was a section that required you to arrange the paragraphs of an article into the correct order.

[becky82]

On 5/19/2022 at 9:15 PM, 大块头 said:

There was not a section that tested your handwriting ability, contrary to what the standards suggested.

 

 

This may be for practical reasons during the pandemic.  I wonder if they had speaking and translation too (it's that time of year when VPNs don't work well, so I can't just ask).  It could also just be too much to cover on a single test.

[sandy65]

Details of HSK 7-9 exam content (based on trial test 15 May 2022): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRq3mDOSFxE

 

Don't worry, the explanation in the video is in Chinese. ? ?

 

 

[becky82]

On 5/20/2022 at 11:20 AM, sandy65 said:

Details of HSK 7-9 exam content (based on trial test 15 May 2022): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRq3mDOSFxE

 

I made a transcript (hopefully I haven't made any mistakes I've made some mistakes; corrections are in subsequent posts):

 

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大家好，我是[王钱]老师。下面，就要我来介绍一下7到9级考试的类型。

 

7到9级的听力分成三个部分。第一部分就和6级完全不一样。6级的第一部分的听力是听一小段、一百字的文章，然后选择和内容一致的选项。一个问题，一个题目。而7到9级的听力的第一部分就是听三段长的文章。然后每个文章听完后有五个问题。问题的类型也不是选择a、b、c、d，而是选择对错，所以选项就是a、对，b、错。7到9级的第一部分给我的第一形象就是象6级的第二部分一样，要听一大段内容，然后判断对错。不过万幸的是，第一部分的听力是按照顺序出题的，按照顺序可以听出选出对错。

 

7到9级的听力的第二部分也是和6级的第二部分相似，不过从这部分开始另外添加了填空题。这部分选项就开始有a、b、c、d。而且，选项的内容开始变长，后面两道题目就开始需要填空。题目数不多，不仅要选出正确的答案，还需要填写所缺的单词。不过呢，单词不是那么难，听到什么写出什么就好。这个单词呢很短。但是，我也是第一次遇到这种类型的题目，还是觉得比较复杂的。

 

7到9级的听力的第三部分和6级的第三部分比较相似。不是一对话的形式出现，而是有一个人说一段话。但是，这地方题目也是特别多。后两道题也和前面一样，有客观题和主管题。这部分也需要我们一边选出选项，一边填写单词。需要我们在做听力的时候，对于细节的把握更加仔细。第三部分我觉得特别难，因为选择上答案很长。所以呢，可没有时间读完，再加上要填空，所以我觉得考生在考试的时候可能会有一些手忙脚乱的感觉。

 

下面那介绍一下阅读。阅读真题给我的感觉要比6级简单。首先，没有6级的第一部分、第二部分。7到9级的第一部分呢，和6级的第四部分相似，但是每个题目后有7道题目，题目数量很多。用电脑考试的时候，眼睛特别吃力，要用鼠标来回找答案。

 

阅读的第二部分较简单，比较新鲜，是让我们填一句话。但是用电脑找起来比较麻烦。题目不能出现在一个页面上，得用鼠标上下移动，找起来不太方便。

 

阅读的第三部分和6级的第三部分差不多，排列顺序，不过比6级多，一共有8个选项。每个选项有100到150字左右的文章，然后让我们进行排序，里面已经给了提示，填好了三个，然后让我们填出剩下的地方。

 

下面来介绍一下写作部分。写作总体分为两个部分。第一部分是阅读一篇说明文后，有两小题写作。第一题是对这段文章进行整理总结，要我们写出200字以上。第二题是对上述文章进行自己见解阐述。要写出一篇议论文，600字以上。写作的第二部分呢，是翻译。把汉语300字到400字的文章，在20分钟内，翻译成汉语。

 

口语考试呢，我个人觉得几个部分当中最难的一个部分。首先口语呢，第一部分是口译，给我们一段说明文，改3到4行左右的汉语，给我们一分钟的准备时间。然后呢，在两分钟内，口头翻译成汉语。

 

口语的第二部分是口语考试当中较简单的部分，有两道题目，每道题有一个表格，或者图片。根据相关内容可以看着它们，对朋友进行情况说明。准备的时间也很充分：有三分钟的准备时间。准备时间结束后，也有三分钟的时间表达出来。

 

口语的第三部分是口语当中最最难的一部分。第一题没有准备时间，在没有字幕的情况下，听一段说明文，然后没有准备时间，让你用两分钟的时间说出自己的见解。第二题也跟第一题一样，听一段长的文章后，也是说出自己的见解。用三分钟的时间，不过要说满三分钟，也是一件不容易的事。

 

那么，这样看来，口语考试，对于时事、新闻、热点话题考得比较多所以需要考生们平时多关心新闻，多积累知识，才能够说得出来。

简单地说明了，7到9级的考试的类型。说实话，考完听力后，头有点疼。考完阅读后，眼睛有点酸。写作考试的时候，感觉写600字议论文的时候，一直在凑字数。口语考试说自己见解的时候，感觉有点说不出来。7到9级总题难度当然比6级要难得多，但是只要我们有勇气挑战，就肯定要拿到高级。加油！

 

[Publius]

On 5/20/2022 at 7:40 PM, becky82 said:

I made a transcript

If you don't mind me making some small corrections...

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大家好，我是[王钱倩/茜]老师。下面，就要由我来介绍一下7到9级考试的类型。

7到9级的听力分成三个部分。第一部分就和6级完全不一样。6级的第一部分的听力是听一小段、一百字的文章，然后选择和内容一致的选项。一个问题，一个题目。而7到9级的听力的第一部分就是听三段长的文章。然后每个文章听完后有五个问题。问题的类型也不是选择a、b、c、d，而是选择对错，所以选项就是a、对，b、错。7到9级的第一部分给我的第一形印象就是象像6级的第二部分一样，要听一大段内容，然后判断对错。不过万幸的是，第一部分的听力是按照顺序出题的，按照顺序可以听出选出对错。

7到9级的听力的第二部分也是和6级的第二部分相似，不过从这部分开始另外添加了填空题。这部分选项就开始有a、b、c、d。而且，选项的内容开始变长，后面两道题目就开始需要填空。题目数不很多，不仅要选出正确的答案，还需要填写所缺的单词。不过呢，单词不是那么难，听到什么写出什么就好。这个单词呢很短。但是，我也是第一次遇到这种类型的题目，还是觉得比较复杂的。

7到9级的听力的第三部分和6级的第三部分比较相似。不是一以对话的形式出现，而是有一个人说一段话。但是，这地方题目也是特别多。后两道题也和前面一样，有客观题和主管观题。这部分也需要我们一边选出选项，一边填写单词。需要我们在做听力的时候，对于细节的把握要更加仔细。第三部分我觉得特别难，因为选择上项答案很长。所以呢，可能没有时间读完，再加上要填空，所以我觉得考生在考试的时候可能会有一些手忙脚乱的感觉。

下面那来介绍一下阅读。阅读真题整体给我的感觉要比6级简单。首先，没有6级的第一部分、和第二部分。7到9级的第一部分呢，和6级的第四部分相似，但是每个题目后有7道题目，题目数量很多。用电脑考试的时候，眼睛特别吃力，要用鼠标来回找答案。

阅读的第二部分较简单，比较新鲜，是让我们填一句话。但是用电脑考试找起来比较麻烦。题目不能出现在一个页面上，得用鼠标上下移动，找起来不太方便。

阅读的第三部分和6级阅读的第三部分差不多，排列顺序，不过比6级多，一共有8个选项。每个选项里有100到150字左右的文章，然后让我们进行排序，里面已经给了提示，填好了三个，然后让我们填出剩下的地方。

下面来介绍一下写作部分。写作总体分为两个部分。第一部分是阅读一篇说明文后，有两小题写作。第一题是对这段文章进行整理总结，要我们写出200字以上。第二题是对上述文章进行自己见解的阐述。要写出一篇议论文，600字以上。写作的第二部分呢，是翻译。把汉韩语300字到400字的文章，在20分钟内，翻译成汉语。

口语考试呢，是我个人觉得这几个部分当中最难的一个部分。首先口语呢，第一部分是口译，给我们一段说明文，改大概3到4行左右的汉韩语，给我们一分钟的准备时间。然后呢，在两分钟内，口头翻译成汉语。

口语的第二部分是口语考试当中比较简单的一部分，有两道题目，每道题有一个表格，或者图片。根据相关内容可以看着它们，对朋友进行情况说明。准备的时间也很充分：有三分钟的准备时间。准备时间结束后，也有用三分钟的时间表达出来。

口语的第三部分是口语当中最最难的一部分。第一题没有准备时间，在没有字幕的情况下，听一段说明文，然后没有准备时间，让你用两分钟的时间说出自己的见解。第二题也是跟第一题一样，听一段长的文章后，也是说出自己的见解。用三分钟的时间，不过要说满三分钟，也是一件不容易的事。

那么，这样看来，口语考试，对于时事、新闻、热点话题考得比较多所以需要考生们平时多关心新闻，多积累知识，才能够说得出来。
(我)简单地说明了，7到9级的考试的类型。说实话，考完听力后，头有点疼。考完阅读后，眼睛有点酸。写作考试的时候，感觉写600字议论文的时候，一直在凑字数。口语考试说自己见解的时候，感觉有点说不出来。7到9级总题体难度当然比6级要难得多，但是只要我们有勇气挑战，就肯定要能拿到高级。加油！

[大块头]

Ha, beat me by a few minutes! Thanks @Publius.

 

[becky82]

Thanks for the transcript corrections!  My translation/summary of the video:
 

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The video says there are four sections:

 

Listening (3 parts): (a) Listen to three long passages, then there are 5 true/false questions each (following the sequence of the speech).  (b) Multiple choice [a,b,c,d] questions, but there are gaps where you also need to fill in some words.  (c) Like HSK6 listening part 3 [listen to a speech, answer a question], but with long answers, and you need to fill in gaps.

 

Reading (3 parts): She twice says the interface was awkward.  (There was no equivalent to HSK6 reading parts 1 ["faulty wording"] and 2 ["fill in the gaps"].)  (a) Like HSK6 reading part 4 [where you read a passage and answer questions] but there are 7 questions per passage [instead of 4]. (b) Fill in a sentence.  (c) Like HSK6 reading part 3, we order a text, but there are 8 options, of which 3 are already done for you.

 

Writing (2 parts): (a) Read a passage and (i) summarize it in 200+ characters, then (ii) expand on it with your own opinions in 600+ characters. (b) Translate 300 characters of Korean into 400 characters of Chinese (20 minutes).

 

Speaking (2 parts): She said this is the hardest part.  (a) Translate 3 or 4 lines of Korean: 1 minute of prep time, then 2 minutes speaking time.  (b) Relative simple; there's a list or picture, and you are to explain the situation; there is 3 minutes prep time, and 3 minutes of speaking time.  (c) By far the hardest; (i) No prep time, nor subtitles, listen to a speech, then give your opinion about it for 2 minutes; (ii) same as (i) but for 3 minutes, and you need to use the whole 3 minutes.

 

She said it was obviously harder than the HSK6.  The student should prepare by studying current affairs, news, hot topics.

 

 

She took a computer exam, but had problems with the interface.  She doesn't mention handwriting, despite it being prominent in the new standards (I don't know what this implies---it may be related to the pandemic, or perhaps there is a separate, handwritten exam [although, in total, she says we need to write 1200 characters]).  She mentions the other two new aspects: speaking and translation.  The translations are all into Chinese (i.e., you always write and speak Chinese), not the other way around.  Presumably we have a choice of which language to translate from (I can't read Korean!).