Flickserve Posted May 23, 2020 at 02:59 PM Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 02:59 PM Here's a sentence that puzzled me lots. Those with a lot of experience will probably understand the sentence immediately Growing_up_with_Chinese_44_1_0.1.54.836-0.1.59.359.mp3 I put the sentence up in my wechat group as a test and got a big shock when they came back with the sentence transcribed accurately Quote
Flickserve Posted May 23, 2020 at 03:04 PM Author Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 03:04 PM I couldn't relate what was being spoken to what the script wrote, even after listening to it many times. 好像 - xiang4 - xi sound is dropped 落在 - la4zai and not luo4zai (this one had driven me round the bend until the wechat told me of the changed pronunciation) 出租车上 - shang pronounced very softly and more like rang. It was a good wechat teaching session Quote
Jim Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:34 PM Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:34 PM Got it on the second go without reading your prompts; usually you'd have a bit of context in a real-world situation to help you get a handle so i took the first listen as that. I have similar experiences all the time here in the village; people really don't speak like any text book but situationally you can almost always follow. 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:40 PM Author Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:40 PM @Jim good one. Experience counts for a lot. Hopefully, I can find another juicy sentence to analyse on a different Saturday night. Quote
roddy Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:43 PM Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 04:43 PM Stick these up without any info (ok, maybe a bit of context) and give people 24 hours to give it their best shot... 1 Quote
PerpetualChange Posted May 23, 2020 at 05:20 PM Report Posted May 23, 2020 at 05:20 PM I got this: 我好像把小雞把它出去了 How wrong am I? 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 24, 2020 at 12:05 AM Author Report Posted May 24, 2020 at 12:05 AM 6 hours ago, PerpetualChange said: How wrong am I? Let you know in roughly twelve hours. Quote
ZhuoMing Posted May 24, 2020 at 08:51 AM Report Posted May 24, 2020 at 08:51 AM 我好像把相机拉在出租车上。 I believe it's this, though I never would have gotten the 出租车上 part if it weren't for the notes @Flickserve wrote. Sounds like chusheng to me. As for the 落 pronounced là and meaning "left behind", I was only ever aware of using 拉 for this meaning. Also pronounced là. Looking at pleco I can only guess they are two ways of writing the same thing but I have no idea. Can anyone confirm this? 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 24, 2020 at 04:47 PM Author Report Posted May 24, 2020 at 04:47 PM @PerpetualChange @ZhuoMing 我好像把相机落在出租车上了 I wouldn't feel too bad about not getting it Quote
PerpetualChange Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:39 PM Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:39 PM What the hell! ? 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:44 PM Author Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:44 PM 3 minutes ago, PerpetualChange said: What the hell! Yeah. This series is very good training material! The dialogue isn’t too long which makes things feel manageable Quote
PerpetualChange Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:46 PM Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 12:46 PM Listened again. Is that actually Putonghua? Quote
Flickserve Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:01 PM Author Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:01 PM On 5/24/2020 at 4:51 PM, ZhuoMing said: As for the 落 pronounced là and meaning "left behind", I was only ever aware of using 拉 for this meaning. Also pronounced là. Looking at pleco I can only guess they are two ways of writing the same thing but I have no idea. Can anyone confirm this? If you go to the episode on this link, at about 4.58 , it's confirmed 1 hour ago, PerpetualChange said: Is that actually Putonghua? At speed with dropped sounds. Quote
suMMit Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:33 PM Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:33 PM I played it for a native speaker friend from Baoding, she had zero problem getting every word on one listen. I couldn't believe when she said 出租车上。 1 Quote
roddy Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:51 PM Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 02:51 PM If you clipped the rest out, she might not. There's only so many places a camera gets left. Quote
889 Posted May 25, 2020 at 03:10 PM Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 03:10 PM To be fair, real spoken English can be equally perplexing maybe more so to non-native speakers. "Dja leave da camradja brudduhs? 1 Quote
Flickserve Posted May 25, 2020 at 04:04 PM Author Report Posted May 25, 2020 at 04:04 PM 1 hour ago, suMMit said: I couldn't believe when she said 出租车上。 The guy says it like chu -u che. To be honest I listened to it many times and although I got 出租车, I can't hear the shang. Quote
歐博思 Posted May 26, 2020 at 01:14 AM Report Posted May 26, 2020 at 01:14 AM Spoiler 哦,我好像把相機拉在出租車上 Got it first time, but I'd just finished your other clip from the same series, so I cheated. These 4-5 second clips are addicting. Quote
New Members rocer_jubin Posted May 26, 2020 at 08:04 PM New Members Report Posted May 26, 2020 at 08:04 PM 哦! 我好像把相机拉在(làzài) 出租车呢! Quote
anonymoose Posted May 26, 2020 at 09:29 PM Report Posted May 26, 2020 at 09:29 PM I think it's quite common for certain initials not to be pronounced fully (or, according to the standard putongghua pronunciation). A native Shandonger I know often pronounces xiang as hiang when she's speaking quickly. Quote
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