kevinstandage Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:38 PM Report Posted September 24, 2020 at 03:38 PM Can anyone help translate this. The item originates from Honk Kong, circa 1900, but I am unsure if it is Chinese or Japanese. Many thanks, Kevin Quote
大块头 Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:28 PM Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:28 PM How confident are you in the provenance? I'm only able to recognize one character: 元 The rest look like they were copied by someone with no knowledge of Chinese or Japanese. Reminds me of the fake blood chit from last year. Quote
Jim Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:55 PM Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 12:55 PM 27 minutes ago, 大块头 said: How confident are you in the provenance? I'm only able to recognize one character: 元 There's a 光 at the top there too but I like your theory, wonder if it's a copy of an old silver coin, you'd see 光绪元宝 like this: https://baike.baidu.com/item/光绪元宝/4756974?fr=aladdin As you can see, those two characters are in the right place. 2 Quote
kevinstandage Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:12 PM Author Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:12 PM Thanks for both your replies. I'm 99.9% sure of the provenance, as there are many other pieces I have successfully identified to that area and I know he was in Hong Kong in the early 1900s (have his army records, photos etc). Perhaps it's just a souvenir he bought before leaving, but I was interested to know what the script said. Here's the other side of the object fyi. Quote
Demonic_Duck Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:14 PM Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:14 PM 2 hours ago, Jim said: There's a 光 at the top there too You sure that's 光? Looks like it could also be 先、无、圥...? Quote
Jim Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:20 PM Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:20 PM 4 minutes ago, Demonic_Duck said: You sure that's 光? Looks like it could also be 先、无、圥...? No, not sure, but think it's good possibility it was the model on that theory and given the execution of the piece in general. Wouldn't be at all surprised to find it's something else entirely though. Quote
kevinstandage Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:23 PM Author Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:23 PM Update for you all, via another forum. The design is from a coin, one of the earlier standardised currencies. 光緒元寶 = Guangxu Yuanbao Your medallion is not likely a real coin converted to a medallion, I'd say merely the design is inspired by the centre part of the coin with a more stylised character set. There are hundreds of such examples of this coin design, and a great many variations of the coin over time. The Guangxu Emperor reigned from from 1875 to 1908, so that fits on the date front... 3 Quote
Jim Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:36 PM Report Posted September 25, 2020 at 03:36 PM Thanks for the follow-up and that's the same as we thought but oddly the the picture you have from the other forum is actually of a coin from a different reign era, Xuantong (Puyi, the last emperor)! Just to add to the fun. Quote
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