New Members Jeffrey Walsh Posted December 31, 2020 at 06:13 AM New Members Report Posted December 31, 2020 at 06:13 AM I taught in China for many years. Getting a work visa was usually a fairly simple process, whether at a language institute or a university. I would drop off my passport with a designated school official or Foreign Affairs Officer and a few weeks later, I would get a Foreign Expert Certificate and a VISA in my passport. These transactions all took place while I was in country. Now 1) there's a worldwide pandemic and 2) I am in the U.S. Does anyone have any advice for me in getting a work visa in 2020-2021? s Quote
mungouk Posted December 31, 2020 at 01:32 PM Report Posted December 31, 2020 at 01:32 PM Wow, how long ago was this that you could get all this done so easily? AFAIK it's not possible to apply for a new work visa (Z-visa) inside China. Also, there's no such things as a Foreign Expert Certificate any more. This is the process I went through in 2020, from the UK. Actually I did it all twice because my visa was initially awarded in March just before full lock-down, and it expired in June before I had a chance to enter China, so I had to start all over again. Disclaimer: this being China, all of this is subject to change at any time, and possibly varies depending on which province or municipality you're going to. VISA APPLICATION Get a job in China and sign the contract. Apply for police background check in home country to show no criminal record Get original police check certificate and a copy of highest degree certificate notarised by a solicitor or notary public Send the notarised documents to the government authority (Foreign and Commonwealth Office in UK) for addition of an apostille. "Legalisation" of the documents with apostilles at the Chinese Consulate or Embassy (now handled by the visa application centre in the UK). Get standard medical check done (chest X-ray, ECG, blood test including HIV, Syphilis, etc.) Receive copy of medical check results Submit scans of all the above documents to employer in China so they can apply for Work Permit and "PU Letter" 邀请函 Receive PU Letter. Receive notification of Foreigner's Work Permit being granted 中华人民共和国 外国人工作许可通知 Submit visa application to Chinese embassy/consulate/visa application centre consisting of: Completed application form Current passport Copy of passport ID page Signed copy of declaration form Copy of previous visa (if any) PU letter Notification of Foreigner's Work Permit Collect passport from Visa Application Centre with Z-visa in it Now for the COVID-related bit, which has has varied a great deal since I arrived in China in October, depending on country of origin and local COVID situation: Get COVID PCR test done and receive certificate showing negative result (a week after my test this was extended to also include an antibody test and they both had to be done within 48 hours of flying; not sure of the current situation, see the IATA website and click on China for details.) Submit health declaration form to Chinese consulate/embassy for authentication Receive authenticated health declaration which had to be shown when boarding the plane. THEN... Travel to China and quarantine in government-allocated quarantine hotel for 14 days. (Recently extended to 14 days in hotel then 7 days in "home quarantine" and then 7 days self-reporting.) Another PCR test 3 days before leaving quarantine (some of my colleagues also had an antibody test). Being negative is required to leave quarantine of course. When leaving quarantine, receive green "Health code" (QR code) on phone app — mine lives inside AliPay — which enables free movement around local area and possibly beyond, depending on what's happening in China. THEN... Once in country, employer applies for Work Permit Card Get Chinese medical check done (in my case I showed them everything from the UK check and they just gave me another chest X-ray) Receive standard Chinese medical check certificate — valid for 6 months Apply for residence permit at Public Security Bureau (Z-visa is converted to residence permit in passport)... requires Work Permit Card, passport and medical certificate At long last, get passport back with residence permit in it. My own timeline was: 13 Jul — Started the ball rolling with police background check and then notarising documents 10 Aug — submitted all docs to employer in China 08 Oct — appointment to submit visa application in person 15 Oct — received passport with Z-visa 25 Oct — flew to China 09 Nov — left Quarantine 23 Dec — collected passport with residence permit from PSB Hope this helps — welcome to the forums! 1 3 Quote
chinadude2006 Posted December 31, 2020 at 08:01 PM Report Posted December 31, 2020 at 08:01 PM 6 hours ago, mungouk said: Travel to China and quarantine in government-allocated quarantine hotel for 14 days. (Recently extended to 14 days in hotel then 7 days in "home quarantine" and then 7 days self-reporting.) I wonder what will happen to people who don't have a “home” yet? This is especially true for people arriving for the first time. It could potentially mean 21 days hotel quarantine. Quote
chupachang Posted January 11, 2022 at 11:38 AM Report Posted January 11, 2022 at 11:38 AM Hi @mungouk Thanks for sharing the detailed posting on getting a work visa. (And Happy New Year!) I am also trying to figure out the proper steps and saw this posting. Some questions. 1. Assuming school starts in August , how early should they start applying z visa for me? 2. If i accept the contract (e sign) before i arrive in China , is it considered a breach of contract if I decide to withdraw before I arrive in China? Quote
mungouk Posted January 14, 2022 at 10:10 AM Report Posted January 14, 2022 at 10:10 AM On 1/11/2022 at 7:38 PM, chupachang said: 1. Assuming school starts in August , how early should they start applying z visa for me? Under normal circumstances, at least 3 months before you want to arrive. But these are not normal circumstances — some readers here have described long delays getting the PU Letter issued for example. There seems to be a lot of variation between provinces/cities. Depending on where you will land (and eventually move to for the job) you probably need to add another 3-4 weeks to allow for doing quarantine, unless you're able to work from in the quarantine facility. We had 2 new colleagues join us here at my college this semester who both had to do 28 days QT split across 2 different cities (the first where their plane landed, the second here in Hangzhou). Also many many international flights are suspended currently, so getting into the country is a challenge even with a visa. Getting onto a flight can add further delays. On top of all this, all restrictions here on the mainland (and in HK from what I've read) are being tightened a great deal right now — due to paranoia around the Winter Olympics and Paralympics, along with the arrival of Omicron — and the rules can change without warning. Cities of 13 million all being placed into full lockdown and mass testing because of an outbreak of around 20 people for example. On 1/11/2022 at 7:38 PM, chupachang said: 2. If i accept the contract (e sign) before i arrive in China , is it considered a breach of contract if I decide to withdraw before I arrive in China? I have no idea about the Chinese legal system. I would think it's unlikely that anyone would come after you for it legally speaking, but then again it might affect future visa applications. Quote
chupachang Posted January 15, 2022 at 12:30 AM Report Posted January 15, 2022 at 12:30 AM On 1/14/2022 at 6:10 PM, mungouk said: Under normal circumstances, at least 3 months before you want to arrive. But these are not normal circumstances — some readers here have described long delays getting the PU Letter issued for example. There seems to be a lot of variation between provinces/cities. Depending on where you will land (and eventually move to for the job) you probably need to add another 3-4 weeks to allow for doing quarantine, unless you're able to work from in the quarantine facility. We had 2 new colleagues join us here at my college this semester who both had to do 28 days QT split across 2 different cities (the first where their plane landed, the second here in Hangzhou). Also many many international flights are suspended currently, so getting into the country is a challenge even with a visa. Getting onto a flight can add further delays. On top of all this, all restrictions here on the mainland (and in HK from what I've read) are being tightened a great deal right now — due to paranoia around the Winter Olympics and Paralympics, along with the arrival of Omicron — and the rules can change without warning. Cities of 13 million all being placed into full lockdown and mass testing because of an outbreak of around 20 people for example. Yes. With all the incurred costs from QT and PCR test and everchanging COVIG19 policies , it takes a lot of courage / time / resource(money) to plan this. Will start thinking through all this! Thanks! Quote
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