New Members Mary112233 Posted April 9, 2021 at 03:47 PM New Members Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 at 03:47 PM Hello! I had a question about tone change when translating: for the character "一" , the pinyin is (yi1). But when we say "一隻" it sounds like yi4zhi1. I've seen mixed feedback though for when you're writing pinyin, whether you should actually change it to yi4 or leave it as yi1. Can anyone help? Thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan Finster Posted April 9, 2021 at 06:04 PM Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 at 06:04 PM https://www.chinese-forums.com/forums/topic/47280-when-does-一-change-tone/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZhuoMing Posted April 9, 2021 at 07:44 PM Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 at 07:44 PM What do you need to write in pinyin for? The only time I ever had to write pinyin out was for a few quizzes when I took an Chinese Language introductory class in college, and I think my teacher preferred if we wrote out the tone changes to show that we know it. I think its probably generally better to write the correct tone as it would be pronounced, but I don't think there is any hard rule for this since nobody writes in pinyin, and it isn't too important since a Chinese person would never read pinyin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonic_Duck Posted April 9, 2021 at 10:42 PM Report Share Posted April 9, 2021 at 10:42 PM Basic Rules of Hanyu Pinyin Orthography (Summary) Quote Only the original tones are indicated; tone sandhi is not indicated. 一隻 spelling: yī zhī, pronunciation: yì zhī Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Members Han Qiu Yan Posted April 10, 2021 at 09:59 AM New Members Report Share Posted April 10, 2021 at 09:59 AM When written in the books or some texts, the tone change isn't written. You have to remember, that yi + 1,2,3 tone characters= yi has 4th tone 一听,一家,一直 yi+ 4th tone characters= yi has 2nd tone 一样,一看,一个 There are some exceptions, though. In numbers we say it in first tone like 一二三四五 If means the first year, the first month (Jan), the first day of the month, then its pronounced in first tone, but if we say one year, one month (not the first), one day, then yi changes its tone according to the rules above. Also, when yi is with 第,then it doesnt change its tone, as 第一 means the first. hope this helps :)) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollys Posted April 13, 2021 at 04:58 AM Report Share Posted April 13, 2021 at 04:58 AM The standard way to write pinyin is to use the pre-tone-change pinyin. However, many resources you will find write post-tone-change pinyin, which is why you may be confused. Often people find post-tone-change pinyin more useful for teaching, especially when targeted at beginners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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