黄有光 Posted September 20, 2022 at 05:50 PM Report Posted September 20, 2022 at 05:50 PM Well, my peeps, I'm tapping out. Originally, my goal was to hit a vocabulary of 25.000 words. I am a bit shy of that, clocking in at a little over 21.000 words. I have decided to end my 1.5 year project of intensive vocabulary studies. I began experiencing the early signs of burnout, and experience has taught me to know when to call it quits for my sanity. I will be spending the remaining months of the year resting and recuperating. I will, however, still be consuming Chinese on a daily (or near-daily) basis. I'm excited to tell you all that I'm moving into audiobooks! In fact I've already finished two: 哈利波特与魔法石 and 哈利波特与密室. When it comes to print, I've been delving into native content, but given how weak my listening comprehension is, I'm back to content I know like the back my hand for listening practice. 哈利波特与魔法石 was my first-ever audiobook in Chinese. For that book, I read along with the text while listening, and was surprised how easily I was able to keep up with the audio. I followed the same routine for 哈利波特与密室. 哈利波特与阿兹卡班的囚徒 has been a more challenging experience. For this book, I am listening to the audiobook while vaguely following along with an entirely different translation in text. This forces me to rely much, much more heavily on my listening comprehension -- almost exclusively, I'd say -- while still allowing me to check the text for key words if I get lost. I have found this to be a highly effective way of weaning myself off of text support so far. In fact, I might choose to follow this for the fourth book as well! I am looking forward to my first audiobook without any text at all. I expect I will probably get there by the end of this year, but we shall see. The graphs I posted above are the final results of my extended studies. It feels surreal to see the final data when I can remember plotting the first bits of data as if it were yesterday. 2 1 Quote
Popular Post Woodford Posted October 12, 2022 at 05:50 PM Popular Post Report Posted October 12, 2022 at 05:50 PM In this last quarter of 2022, my study tactics are starting to shift. I now read online Chinese articles from places like Sina News and Zhihu (whatever looks interesting, fun, or provocative), and I watch Chinese YouTube videos. It's a rich and varied experience that doesn't present the same kind of commitment as a 600-page novel. I'm rapidly learning more about Chinese culture, becoming more informed about international affairs, and basically reaping the benefits that incentivized me to start learning Chinese to begin with. Of course, we benefit the most from practicing those areas in which we're weaker. So resuming active listening practice is proving to be an enriching experience. I can't remember who it was, but somebody in these forums suggested the "Dashu Mandarin" YouTube channel. That's been a lot of fun, and I plan to listen to all the episodes. It's a nice difficulty level--late intermediate/early advanced, I'd say. I might also work through all the "Mandarin Corner" interviews, too. In the past, I've tended to work through native-level stuff, but I think I need to make room for more comfortable content (like the two above channels), as well. During the day, I constantly listen to Podcasts in the background. My mainstays are 原来是这样, 故事FM, 科技早知道, Steve说,看理想电台,and 资讯有故事。They do provide some comprehensible input, but I'm usually only partially paying attention to them, so the benefit might be somewhat limited. I'm not sure. I suppose it doesn't hurt to listen to them passively. If I could put aside everything else, close my eyes, and focus on them, perhaps I could follow along with them. But I don't. Sometime before next Summer, I have to finish elementary German. That has been a very different kind of experience. Far less work than Chinese. And I'm already semi-conversational in it. Half of the words are identical/similar to English, and there are no 汉字 to learn. I don't really have the desire to become some kind of super-ambitious polyglot, but I'd rather limit myself to just Chinese and German for the remainder of my life. Quality over quantity at this point. 7 Quote
Guest realmayo Posted October 13, 2022 at 02:30 PM Report Posted October 13, 2022 at 02:30 PM On 10/12/2022 at 6:50 PM, Woodford said: the "Dashu Mandarin" YouTube channel You may also have found the individual channels for the three teachers: the musings of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXhhmn4mRYk for instance hit the spot for me, while there's worthwhile content also at https://www.youtube.com/c/ChinesewithBen . Quote
Woodford Posted October 13, 2022 at 03:10 PM Report Posted October 13, 2022 at 03:10 PM On 10/13/2022 at 9:30 AM, realmayo said: You may also have found the individual channels for the three teachers I began to explore one of the channels last night! I saw that Richard (the Taiwanese teacher, apparently) not only has free lessons (live and recorded), but he's also teaching the new HSK 7-9. I may or may not watch those, but that's some impressive dedication. I imagine the other two channels are also great. 1 Quote
Popular Post sanchuan Posted October 13, 2022 at 04:33 PM Popular Post Report Posted October 13, 2022 at 04:33 PM One of the greatest features I see in this latest crop of creators is their diversity, especially in terms of gender and age. Educational content of this kind used to be the sole preserve of young female voices (at a time when the target audience used to be nearly the opposite demographic!). Seeing older male Chinese venturing into a YouTube teaching career is brilliant. I hope they're encouraged to continue. A great deal of language is learnt through imitation of one's (perceived) peers so the more voices available out there the better. 5 1 Quote
Tomsima Posted December 8, 2022 at 05:18 PM Report Posted December 8, 2022 at 05:18 PM Dropping in for a 2022 aims and objectives update. 1) Keep going with Cantonese: Yes, I am still going, and getting better. I finally found an excellent face-to-face teacher about two months ago and have made very quick progress since then. I actually did find a good teacher on italki, but the difference in motivation when in an in person setting is huge, much more tangible evidence of progress and therefore much more motivating. 2) Read lots of books from the late qing/republican period: Yes, this year I have read lots of political essays from the period, and went deep, deep down the Lu Xun rabbit hole. I even managed to read a third of 儒林外史 before I ran out of steam. I actually had to make flashcards for the characters so that I could better keep track of who was who. I will come back to this one day, as it is an amazing way to learn about what it must have really been like trying to work your way through the civil service system. 2 1 Quote
markpete Posted December 24, 2022 at 06:34 PM Report Posted December 24, 2022 at 06:34 PM Hi, all. I'm reporting back in here at the end of the year. I met all of my goals for the year, which I feel pretty good about! Roughly, this amounted to about 40 minutes a day of conversation or dedicated listening practice, 10 minutes per day on flash cards, 5 minutes a day of reading, and learning just over 500 new words. I didn't really feel like my skills improved much over the course of the year, although my score this year on the HSK 5 was 69-60-74 listening-reading-writing, compared to 49-51-79 a year ago. So at least my score was better (although I think I especially under-performed on the listening part of the test last year, so it may not be representative). I also have to admit that it was a bit of a grind sometimes. I'm going to keep trying to improve in 2023, but will test out a different approach that I hope will be more motivating / require less grit and also show some good results. We will see! ? Wishing everyone all the best for a happy 2023! Cheers, Mark 3 1 Quote
Popular Post Fithen Posted December 26, 2022 at 06:49 PM Popular Post Report Posted December 26, 2022 at 06:49 PM Here to reflect on my goals too. Didn't set myself as many, so will just do some reflection in general. Overall Passed the HSK 6 without much study; was nice to have a confirmation of my language skills. Cut down new Pleco SRS cards to near-zero, and saw lots of improvement this year. Speaking Didn't too much speaking this year — not in an area with a significant number of Chinese-speakers. That said, did (generally, things have gotten hectic the past few weeks) keep up with Wechat voice-message exchanges, and had 1-1 tutoring for two hours a week during the first half of the year. Still, lots of space for more practice and progress. Reading ~11 million characters read on 微信读书! Finished my first webnovel, 盘龙, as well as a Western classic and 三体:一. Reached a reading speed of about 500 cpm (characters per minute) for familiar content. Listening Listen to and fully comprehend Chinese-language fantasy audiobooks at 1.5x speed for about half an hour every day, something impossible last year. Watch all my TV in Mandarin now. Real good progress. Writing Apart from the required handwriting memorization and weekly writing prompts for my Chinese class elective, haven't done much in this regard. But given that my priority is webnovel-reading and -listening, don't really mind. 6 1 Quote
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