stewie Posted November 23, 2005 at 06:58 AM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 06:58 AM what do Chinese normally say when asking "really?", as in "is that so?" would "cheng2 ma" do the job? Quote
Quest Posted November 23, 2005 at 11:27 AM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 11:27 AM 真的吗? 是吗?是真的?是真的吗?有这么回事吗? Quote
889 Posted November 23, 2005 at 11:28 AM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 11:28 AM I'm not Chinese, but I'd simply say Shi ma? 是吗? And I'd really accentuate the falling tone in shi 是, starting it quite a bit higher than usual. Quote
Frank Tian Posted November 23, 2005 at 01:27 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 01:27 PM really means in Chinese is 真的吗?zhen1de ma cheng2ma means is it ok? Quote
semantic nuance Posted November 23, 2005 at 02:09 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 02:09 PM All Quest and 889 said are right. In Taiwan, you can also use "是喔" to mean 'is that so'. But "是喔" is a bit to show surprise,disbelief, or sometimes to tease in a jocular way. Hope it helps! Quote
jukebox Posted November 23, 2005 at 03:14 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 03:14 PM I'm not Chinese, but I'd simply say Shi ma? 是吗? And I'd really accentuate the falling tone in shi 是, starting it quite a bit higher than usual. I think people actually say '不是吧?' more frequently... Quote
dalaowai Posted November 23, 2005 at 03:55 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 03:55 PM I agree with Quest, to add on, I find it to be regional as to which expression people tend to use. For example, while living in Eastern Zhejiang, I found that most people would say "真的”whereas, in Jiangsu, they would often say “是吗”which led me to believe that I was being made fun of. However, that was not the case. Quote
chichi Posted November 23, 2005 at 04:23 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 04:23 PM I believe when we are unwilling to believe it, we would say:"不是把?!” but when we are not sure whether to believe it or not and would like to have the other's confirmation we would say"真的?/真的吗?” and when we doubt it greatly we would say "是吗?” ie. A: 他和***结婚了 B:不是吧!?(indicating that he is unwilling to believe the fact bec maybe ***is too ugly to match him:mrgreen: ) or B: 真的吗?(indicating he doesn't believe it at the first moment maybe bec it comes all of a sudden) or B: 是吗?( indicating he doesn't think it's likely) But generally we don't distinguish them. you can just use at your own will but don't use " 不是吧” in front of people who are much elder or of higher social rank Quote
liuzhou Posted November 23, 2005 at 04:35 PM Report Posted November 23, 2005 at 04:35 PM Round these parts people just yell "真的!" with a suitable questioning tone of voice and appropriate facial expressions. When they calm down they may repeat the question and add "吗"as our text books tell us we should! But I wouldn't guarantee it. Quote
in_lab Posted November 24, 2005 at 02:08 AM Report Posted November 24, 2005 at 02:08 AM Another one is 真的假的? It sounds a little overly dramatic to me, but it's common. Quote
Lu Posted November 24, 2005 at 08:11 PM Report Posted November 24, 2005 at 08:11 PM Another one is 真的假的?I was going to mention that one. Never heard it in Beijing but in Taiwan it's very common. Quote
stewie Posted November 27, 2005 at 02:31 AM Author Report Posted November 27, 2005 at 02:31 AM thanks all. btw "真的" is kao4 nong4, no? Quote
skylee Posted November 27, 2005 at 04:39 PM Report Posted November 27, 2005 at 04:39 PM no. it is zhen1 de. Quote
stewie Posted November 28, 2005 at 08:52 AM Author Report Posted November 28, 2005 at 08:52 AM oops, must have had the wrong encoding selected when copying the characters from this forum & pasting them into a translation site. Quote
stewie Posted December 7, 2005 at 02:05 AM Author Report Posted December 7, 2005 at 02:05 AM "zhen1 da" sounds nice and easy to remember. I couldn't find it though as one phrase at the talking dictionary, so I made this composite using the same website: http://homepages.ihug.com.au/~walstone/public/zhen-da.mp3 can someone confirm it sounds correct before I burn it to cd? (I'm making a cd of common phrases using that excellent website) Quote
semantic nuance Posted December 7, 2005 at 05:33 AM Report Posted December 7, 2005 at 05:33 AM Hi, Yes, it's correct. Hope it helps! Quote
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