anonymoose Posted December 3, 2005 at 03:26 PM Report Posted December 3, 2005 at 03:26 PM Many sentences contain repeated measure words, such as: 西沙群岛一带海水五光十色,瑰丽无比: 有深蓝的,淡青的,浅绿的,杏黄的。一块块,一条条,相互交错着。 西沙群岛也是鸟的天下。岛上有一片片茂密的树林,树林里栖息着各种海鸟。 在快乐的生活里,我们一天天长大。 早晨,从山坡上,从坪坝里,从一条条开着绒球花和太阳花的小路上,走来了许多小学生。 男孩常常是爬到树上,用长长的钩刀一下又一下地削着槐米。一簇簇槐米落下来了。 What is the exact meaning of this repetition? I guess it means something like 'lots of', but why is it then used together with yī 一? This seems to contradict the fact that it refers to a non-singular number of whatever it is. Are there any rules to this use of repeated measure words? Could I say, for example, 我喝了一杯杯酒? It doesn't sound right to me. Quote
HashiriKata Posted December 3, 2005 at 06:26 PM Report Posted December 3, 2005 at 06:26 PM What is the exact meaning of this repetition? I guess it means something like 'lots of', but why is it then used together with yī 一? This seems to contradict the fact that it refers to a non-singular number of whatever it is.Repetition with 一 often means each_x / every_x. Since each_x / every_x connotes that there is more than one x, and therefore often means "plural".Anoyther way of looking at it is : 一块块,一条条, 一天天, etc can be regarded as 一块一块,一条一条, 一天一天. Could I say, for example, 我喝了一杯杯酒? It doesn't sound right to me. No, it doesn't. You'll need a bit more context to make it sound "right" ( if it ever does ). Quote
Quest Posted December 3, 2005 at 08:37 PM Report Posted December 3, 2005 at 08:37 PM Repetition with 一 often means each_x / every_x. Since each_x / every_x connotes that there is more than one x, and therefore often means "plural". Anoyther way of looking at it is : 一块块,一条条, 一天天, etc can be regarded as 一块一块,一条一条, 一天一天. I think more like "one after one": 一块又一块 (piece after piece),一天又一天(day after day) etc.. Could I say, for example, 我喝了一杯杯酒? It doesn't sound right to me. You can say: 我喝了一杯又一杯的酒.... Quote
Jose Posted December 3, 2005 at 11:49 PM Report Posted December 3, 2005 at 11:49 PM I recommend the book "Chinese: A comprehensive grammar" by Yip Po-Ching and Don Rimmington (Routledge, London, 2004). On page 43 there is a section on reduplicated measure words where this usage is explained. Yip and Rimmington roughly differentiate four usages: 1. Every, all. Example: 条条大路通罗马 All roads lead to Rome. 2. Each and every one, when used with 一. Example: 一朵朵花 Every single flower. 3. Many, when used in the pattern 一 MW MW 的. Example: 一座座的桥 Many a bridge. 4 One after another, in the pattern 一 MW 一 MW. Example: 一个一个地 One after another. I think in these cases it is common to use 又 to stress the meaning of succession, as in Quest's examples. The book has more examples. I think it is an excellent book, and I definitely recommend it. Quote
anonymoose Posted December 4, 2005 at 05:40 PM Author Report Posted December 4, 2005 at 05:40 PM Thanks for your answers everyone. I recommend the book "Chinese: A comprehensive grammar" by Yip Po-Ching and Don Rimmington (Routledge, London, 2004). I actually have this book already, and that'll teach me to check more carefully before I post questions here. Quote
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