anonymoose Posted December 29, 2005 at 02:03 PM Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 02:03 PM 我的一本书里有这个句子: 日子过得还都不错 我想知道该句可不可以也说成"日子都过得还不错" 可以的话,意思一样不一样? 由於原来句子中的"都"字的位置,我觉得有点奇怪。 (若我在这里也犯了语言上的错误,请让我知道。谢谢。) Quote
chenpv Posted December 29, 2005 at 03:23 PM Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 03:23 PM '还都' means 'just so so'. '都还' means 'all are ok'. eg: 日子过得还都不错 They are living a not-so-bad but peaceful(ordinary, plain) life. eg: 日子过得都还不错 (Mr X has two children,) his children both live a good life. Thank you very much, self-taught-mba. Quote
self-taught-mba Posted December 29, 2005 at 04:55 PM Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 04:55 PM They are living a not-so-good but peaceful(ordinary, plain) life. I believe you mean to say "not-so-bad" or "not-bad" right? "Not-so-good" would be negative, and this is not what this sentence conveys. Quote
anonymoose Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:23 PM Author Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:23 PM 哦,原来是这样。 "日子都过得还不错"呢? Quote
self-taught-mba Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:23 PM Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:23 PM "都"的位置在两句话里不同. 所以强调的部分也不同. 原句中强调 "不错",指生活还可以. 不是很好也不是很坏.你的句子里强调潜在的所有"要谈到的人". 他或者他们生活得很好. Dōu used before bú cuò is to emphasize / quantify the adverb (bú cuò) (like saying "quite"), but it's used to refer to the people (like saying "both / all") in your sentence. Quote
anonymoose Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:27 PM Author Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:27 PM Actually, in my sentence I thought I was emphasising 日子, as in 所有的日子都过得还不错 (if that makes sense ) Quote
self-taught-mba Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:56 PM Report Posted December 29, 2005 at 05:56 PM Actually, in my sentence I thought I was emphasising 日子, as in 所有的日子都过得还不错 Sorry mixed up your second sentence with this one: 日子过得都还不错(Mr X has two children,) his children both live a good life. Confused now, going to bed. Sorry. I'm tired., Quote
semantic nuance Posted December 30, 2005 at 02:17 AM Report Posted December 30, 2005 at 02:17 AM Actually, 日子过得还都不错 and 日子都过得还不错 are the same. In your context, 還不錯, 都不錯, 還都不錯, 都還不錯 mean the same thing. Hope it helps! Quote
chenpv Posted December 30, 2005 at 03:51 AM Report Posted December 30, 2005 at 03:51 AM I believe you mean to say "not-so-bad" or "not-bad" right? "Not-so-good" would be negative, and this is not what this sentence conveys. Thank you very much! Self-taught-mba.哦,原来是这样。"日子都过得还不错"呢? We can understand what you mean. Actually' date=' in my sentence I thought I was emphasising 日子, as in 所有的日子都过得还不错 (if that makes sense )[/quote'] I think I knew it. Did you want to express: 'All these days....'? 日子 in your sentence means 'Life' not 'Day'. If you want to say 'every aspect of your life is OK.' use: 日子过得还都不错. If you want to say 'several people's lives are OK' use 日子过得都还不错. Personal opinion only. Quote
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