Green Pea Posted January 26, 2006 at 08:10 AM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 08:10 AM But if I was viewing this from a woman perspective' date=' I rather go for a guy who has genuine feelings and affection towards the woman, protects or takes care of her, rather than a super-wealthy guy who is just interested in having a female body by his side.[/quote'] What crap? The only ones that are crap are the billionaires who advertise their wealth to attract golddigging women just for the sake of getting married. How desperate can you get? If one should exercise caution when getting married, then why are these millionaires flaunting their wealth to attract women's attention just to get married? Are they even aware that these kind of women ARE crap? Bless the billionaire virgin seeker and gold diggers for they are honest about their motivations. You are not. What does "protects and takes care of her" really mean? It means providing. If you have money or muscles then you are more able to provide. You want to wrap it up in something else. What's so wrong about wanting to find someone to provide for you and your children? Rich men advertise their wealth in many ways. They buy nice cars or dine at expensive places. They honour themselves with titles such as Dr., CEO, MBA, or VP. If they don't have much financial wealth, then they walk around in T-shirts showing their biceps. Women advertise their goods too. At least this guy knows how to cut through the crap. I have no problems with gold diggers or passport seekers. If people think it's a way to improve their lives, then go for it. Quote
bhchao Posted January 26, 2006 at 05:52 PM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 05:52 PM Bless the billionaire virgin seeker and gold diggers for they are honest about their motivations. You are not. What does "protects and takes care of her" really mean? It means providing. If you have money or muscles then you are more able to provide. You want to wrap it up in something else. What's so wrong about wanting to find someone to provide for you and your children? Rich men advertise their wealth in many ways. They buy nice cars or dine at expensive places. They honour themselves with titles such as Dr., CEO, MBA, or VP. If they don't have much financial wealth, then they walk around in T-shirts showing their biceps. Women advertise their goods too. At least this guy knows how to cut through the crap. I have no problems with gold diggers or passport seekers. If people think it's a way to improve their lives, then go for it. Sorry to be blunt, but I think your post is very humorous, especially since it deviates from the following: "Isn't the purpose of saving our virginity to get a good price?" she asked.Many readers deplored the woman's response, condemning people like her as little better than prostitutes. "I'm also a well-educated woman with a good figure, too, but I hate this kind of thing," wrote one reader. "People's beauty derives from their inner qualities, not their virginity. Those girls have sold themselves like cheap merchandise." Others ridiculed the billionaires. "If they think they can get a pure-hearted girl this way they are really mistaken," wrote another commentator. "To me, the way people are taking virginity as a commodity these days is such a sad thing." Quote
deezy Posted January 26, 2006 at 07:01 PM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 07:01 PM What does "protects and takes care of her" really mean? It means providing. Exactly, real life is not a romance novel. In real life in REAL TERMS, this means helping her out with her car paymets, footing her bill for med school, paying for her plane tickets, putting the big down payment down for a house, utility/cell/internet bills, dining out, not even to mention all the silly girly frivolities of life like clothes, shoes, $80 haircuts, $100 "facial products," decorative candles and other crap... And in real life, this takes MONEY - and LOTS OF IT. Very rarely will the bills in a committed live-in relationship be split 50/50. Ask any Asian couple, in particular. More typically, the woman does the bulk of the spending, and the man the bulk of the earning. Thus, the guy will typically pay all his own bills, all their joint bills and possibly even some of her bills. Quote
bhchao Posted January 26, 2006 at 07:55 PM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 07:55 PM Exactly, real life is not a romance novel. In real life in REAL TERMS, this means helping her out with her car paymets, footing her bill for med school, paying for her plane tickets, putting the big down payment down for a house, utility/cell/internet bills, dining out, not even to mention all the silly girly frivolities of life like clothes, decorative candles and other crap...And in real life, this takes MONEY - and LOTS OF IT. Well no one doubts that. But does material possessions necessarily translate into happiness? Consider the spike in the number of divorces (in the US, South Korea, or Shanghai), the child-custody battles which unfortunately often cause adverse psychological effects on the child, the refusal or reluctance of the husband to pay child support. Of course real life is not a romance novel, and you definitely need money to get around. But there needs to be a balance between accepting a bum with little money whom you like versus accepting a super-rich guy whom you have no feelings for. And based on your description of "helping her out with the car payments, footing her bill for medical school...paying for her shopping clothes or candles", that may seem idealistic, in reality though I doubt that most husbands would be so nice or generous with his assets to let the wife use them for her own frivolous reasons. There have been many instances like this in real life where the husband resents the wife for such issues, and marriages like this very often result in divorce due to one person being financially prudent and the other person being the opposite. (in other words different values that result in financial disputes) Seriously would you be so generous with your assets to pay the entire bill for your wife's medical school? If yes, then hey, great. You are perfectly entitled to make decisions like that as you choose. But a wife with ambitions like that would most likely be already financially well-off on her own terms, well enough to not depend on the husband to foot the entire bill. Very rarely will the bills in a committed live-in relationship be split 50/50. Ask any Asian couple, in particular. More typically, the woman does the bulk of the spending, and the man the bulk of the earning. Thus, the guy will typically pay all his own bills, all their joint bills and possibly even some of her bills. From a traditional standpoint that is true. As more women develop personal ambitions and make their own money, that will change. Consider the case of women in Shanghai whom the article describes as being one of the most demanding and materialistic, and the rise in the number of divorces there. Quote
HashiriKata Posted January 26, 2006 at 10:26 PM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 10:26 PM History repeats! Exactly a year ago we had this similar thead. It looks like some guys just can't help being jealous I'm (Dr Yang, 83 years old) still happily married to my 29 years young lady, by the way Quote
deezy Posted January 26, 2006 at 11:11 PM Report Posted January 26, 2006 at 11:11 PM From a traditional standpoint that is true. As more women develop personal ambitions and make their own money, that will change. You sure about that? Rich beautiful women often just marry...even richer men. The exception would be girls like Britney Spears - and just look how that fiasco is working out...lmao. She's stuck with the baby while Kevin goes out alone on unlimited shopping sprees and partying binges in the new Ferrari she bought him! But in the West, this is what they refer to as "true love," no? Edited: don't include photos unless they are needed. Quote
hakkaboy Posted March 3, 2006 at 10:44 AM Report Posted March 3, 2006 at 10:44 AM Yeah, there are a lot of gold-digging mainland Chinese, but there are a lot of gold-digging American women too. To paint mainland Chinese as somehow worse than any other group of people is just racist and wrong. I think you need to read Bloom's The Closing of the American Mind - and FAST! Quote
Ferno Posted March 4, 2006 at 02:44 AM Report Posted March 4, 2006 at 02:44 AM Exactly what is the debate in this thread? :o Quote
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