想起来 or 记得

[bossidy]

My translation of IC Level 1, Lesson 17 of renders both 想起来 and 记得 as 'remember'.

Is this correct? Are they interchangeable?

Thanks

[roddy]

xiang qilai is used when you have to make an effort to remember something - it's often used in sentences like 'What's his name, wo xiang bu qilai . . .ah xiang qilai le, it's Zhang'. I always thought of the 'qilai' bit meaning the memory was coming up from the depths of your brain, which is cute but wrong. More often used for details like phone numbers, names, so on

jide is simply remember. Could be used for anything.

Am I right folks?

Roddy

[Quest]

you can say 记起来 as well.

[trooper]

I think they mean pretty much the same thing. If there is a difference in the shades of meaning, 想起来 and 记起来 mean "have begun to remember" (the emphasis is on the process of remembering) whereas 记得 just plainly means remember (so the emphasis is on what is remembered). It's right to translate both to English as "remember".

However, there is a difference between the two: the way you form the negative is not the same: 想不起来..... and 不记得......

[smithsgj]

You could translate 想起来 xiangqilai as 'recall', and 记得 as 'internalize'. Does that help?

[Guest faint]

i think xiang qi lai is a more active and informal word,may mean your name occured me, and ji de may mean the state or show a long period of time action,wo ji de ni de ming zi,that implies i never forget your name

am i right? :?

[michaelcrm]

the use of 想起来 goes with either the effort to remember sth or a change of your memery status on sth; 记得 refers to that the speaker is currently able to remember sth, it's a status comment.

I hope it helps.

[sherman]

想起来=recall

记得=remember

[smithsgj]

Sherman "remember" is ambiguous. It means both. That's why the question was raised, and that's why I suggested "internalize".