Want to study in China cheap

[quanxie]

Most, if not all medical schools in China, are easy to get into if you meet the requirements mentioned above and have the funding... I have taught at three of them and visited many...

I really like the dichotomy that Roddy pointed out...Oh, how true it be..

Phil

[novemberfog]

Well, before you go to China and spend a lot of money on a medical or nuclear degree, make sure you find out what the requirements are to get employed for such jobs in Australia. You may find that even if you become a doctor in China, you have to go through a part of med school to get a license in Australia.

[Celso Pin]

why not get a double degree (nuclear and medicine) and you can work with "nuclear medicine"

[yinyang]

A Finnish woman, her name is Petra Vallisaari, is studying at the moment at Beijing University of Chinese Medicine. This is her 2nd year in that place but before that she studied one year in Tianjin's Medicine (University?).

If you'd like to ask her, her email address is:

I don't know her personally, I just heard an interview about her on a Finnish radio.

(removed the email address, do you actualy have permission to post it in public? Roddy)

[snarfer]

I assume you're referring in the previous message to the Institute of Traditional Chinese Medicine affiliated with Dongzhimen Hospital. As a frequent patient there I have had the opportunity to speak with the residents about the length of their training (about ten years for a doctoral degree) and to be interviewed by various visiting western nurses, including a group from Poland, an intern from Germany, and an Argentinian group accompanied by a camera crew, which obligingly filmed my bare rear-end full of needles as they asked me about my opinion of Chinese medicine.

Evidently there are at least some programs at that institution for students who don't know any Chinese at all. Simultaneous translation is provided for the lectures.

That said, let's be realistic here. This is a post from someone who has never even been to China. Why don't you just get a plane ticket and come to Beijing and figure the whole thing out afterwards? You can easily support yourself with some cash teaching jobs while you wander around investigating the various programs. And you can back out if you decide you hate it. One thing I found out about China is that if you want to get things done the best way is to do them in person...

What do you have to lose anyway?

[jrsam]

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[Dukat]

Thankyou very much the most recent replies. I guess I have enough money to check things out, but if I'm going to China, I don't want to be bumming around, I want to be doing something productive while I'm there, and being productive is not about working there as the pay will be 5+ times lower. I'm not interested in a holiday, I allways want to be doing something so I assumed I could save alot of money by studying in China, save money, and learn about the culture at the same time while getting away from the western culture at the same time which can be very tiresome for me atleast.

[mrtoga]

There are about 200 students from India, Pakistan and Afghanistan studying Western Clinical Medicine at Jiamusi University. The courses are held in English although they do seem to be studying Chinese language for about ten hours a week as well. Their motivation is to get the certificates they need to practice in their home countries and they can do it cheaply in Jiamusi - around US$2000 per year for four years I believe.

However not being a medical man myself I would not like to hazard a guess about how their clinical skills are developing - you could have a problem finding a job in Australia with a medical degree from a Chinese university.......

[muldersgun]

In Australia, I see alot of Asian doctors

yeah thats cause most likely they are 1st/2nd generation immigrants who worked their arses off in school so they could obtain the marks in their HSCs/VSCs/UMATS etc so they could get into med. Not neccessarily asian import doctors.

If you get a med degree from china 99% of the times you well have to go through med school again in australia. If you're serious about med or nuclear physics staying in australia is the way to do it. The government is increasing med spots in all the uni especially in Victoria and there are many pathways to get into med. Post-grad, GAMSTAT etc etc...

and if you're eligible for HECs in australia why are you worrying about the fees anyway? Just pay the government back when you start to work. Go to china for a holiday but if you're serious about practicing medicine or whatnot in Australia, study here. You'd have less competition as well.

[mlomker]

Go to china for a holiday but if you're serious about practicing medicine or whatnot in Australia, study here. You'd have less competition as well.

$10k might be enough money for two years but certainly not an entire medical program without working. Even at $5k/yr you'd be living rather meagerly in a city like Beijing.

I think the licensure question would be my greatest concern. Perhaps a PhD in something would offer better recognition.

I intend to pursue graduate study in China as well, but it'll be in business or language.

[silvermaple]

Not the Dongzhimen one , but beijing TCM universithy. BTW the tangible cost was very very high, costed our marriage.