Gestalt Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:17 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:17 AM I picked up a free Chinese magazine while in our local China town today, with the intention of skimming a few articles just to see how much Mandarin vocab I could recognize. I'm still a beginner in Mandarin. Problem is (and this is embarrassing..) I realise I can't even tell if the magazine is using Mandarin (traditional charatcers) or Cantonese! A link to an article on the magazine's online site is here I recognise a lot of traditional chinese characters thanks to knowing Japanese, but are there any tips anyone can give me about how to tell the difference, at a glance, between Mandarin-written-in-traditional-characters, and Cantonese? Or do the two in fact look the same? Quote
Ncao Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:30 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:30 AM It's standard Chinese (Mandarin). You would know when something is written in Cantonese when you see characters like 唔 and 冇. Most Chinese publications are in standard Chinese with the exception of some HK tabloids. Quote
skylee Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:38 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:38 AM Perhaps there is some misunderstanding ... On the whole people write in standard mandarin, regardless of whether they use simplified or traditional characters (e.g. Mainland/Singapore vs Taiwan/HK/Macau), what dialect they speak and where they come from. The writing style and vocabulary may be a bit different but the grammar should be the same. I think only a few HK magazines/newspapers are written in Cantonese, using Cantonese grammar and Cantonese-specific characters (many of them with a mouth 口 radical on the left). Examples are 喺, 嗰, 啲, etc. Quote
amego Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:52 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 07:52 AM Yea, also take note that only Hong Kong and Taiwan (in my knowledge) still use traditional characters. I've seen written colloquial Cantonese in some Hong Kong movies' subtitles. Here is a an extract from here: Cantonese is mainly an oral language. People in Hong Kong use standard Chinese (putonghua) when they read and write. They speak Cantonese in their daily interactions with people. As a colloquial language, Cantonese is full of slang and non-standard usage. The language of youth is rapidly evolving, and new slang and trendy expressions are constantly emerging. Heres a good list of colloquial Cantonese characters. Quote
HashiriKata Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:13 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:13 AM I looked at the page from link Gestalt gave and curiously, it has a button to click for the "中文" version, as if the page itself is not Chinese Quote
amego Posted February 11, 2006 at 10:53 AM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 10:53 AM LOL...anyway the "English" button seems to be useless. Quote
liuzhou Posted February 11, 2006 at 01:38 PM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 01:38 PM anyway the "English" button seems to be useless. That's normal. Quote
amego Posted February 11, 2006 at 03:13 PM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 03:13 PM That's normal. I see i see. Quote
opper567 Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:15 PM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:15 PM Does classical chinese look like cantonese vernacular? I think I've seen many of those cantonese characters before. Quote
Quest Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:53 PM Report Posted February 11, 2006 at 08:53 PM Does classical chinese look like cantonese vernacular? No, classical chinese was spoken (if ever) so long ago that I think even before cantonese and mandarin ancestral dialects diverged, their parent dialect was already very different from classical chinese. Both Cantonese and Mandarin retain different sets of old words. Quote
Gestalt Posted February 12, 2006 at 12:58 AM Author Report Posted February 12, 2006 at 12:58 AM it has a button to click for the "中文" version, I wish I had a "Chinese" button.. Quote
LiYuanXi Posted February 13, 2006 at 08:04 AM Report Posted February 13, 2006 at 08:04 AM I wish I had a "Chinese" button.. Hahaha.. I think everyone wish they had a button like that too! Quote
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