懟 = feel or hate?

[Ferno]

I've seen 懟 deng4 translated as "feel" as in "How I feel about you" but in the dictionary it's defined as "hate/dislike". Which one is it?

[Yuchi]

It's listed only as dui4 in my dictionaries, and they're all hatred related definitions.

[HashiriKata]

I don't know about 怼 pronouncing as deng4 but 怼 does exist as dui4, meaning as Yuchi mentioned. It often appears in this combination: 怨怼(yuan4dui4): resentment.

[Ferno]

ah.. sorry i messed this one up.

yes it was "dui4" (ignore the "deng4" i don't know why I wrote that)

and the character was actually the "dui4" 對 in dui bu qi but the subtitles blocked the bottom half of the characters :o

hmm this leads to something else, can 懟/譈/怼/憝 (all "dui4" meaning "hate") be used as one-syllable words in speech?

我对你 -〉wo3 dui4 ni3 I feel about you

我憝你 -〉wo3 dui4 ni3 I hate you

?

[qrasy]

懟(怼)/譈/憝 = all are rarely used in modern speech. The meaning is 怨.

side note: in Mandarin they all read the same as 對(对) in Mandarin, but in Cantonese the tone is different. (Yang Qu vs Yin Qu -> merged tone categories in Mandarin)

[Ferno]

i see thanks

so Cantonese has more unique syllables than Mandarin?

[Quest]

so Cantonese has more unique syllables than Mandarin?

Cantonese has 6 tones plus m, t, p, k endings.

[Ferno]

hmm but then there's also the "efficiency" or how much the language uses from the pool of available sounds. IE: Mandarin has o-final in "mo" "bo" etc.. but does not make use of the syllables "go" "ko" "jo/zho" "lo" etc... (same thing for a lot of e-endings)

(interestingly enough I found that "fo" only has one tone category "fo2" and has only one meaning "Buddha" - is this the only syllable like this? I wonder if Mandarin speakers would understand the one-syllable morpheme as Buddha...)

no long-i and short-i versions of syllables (ie short-i "mi" but no long-i English "Me")

^is long-i short-i thing actually the reverse in Cantonese? I've never heard a Mandarin-type "si" in Cantonese but I hear a lot of "see"s.