amego Posted March 11, 2006 at 05:50 AM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 05:50 AM Okie, there's a great free Chinese learning site available for learning vocabulary. Many other languages are also available. ALBIS Well the Chinese module is done by me 请多多指教 Anyway ALBIS is a very innovative, fun and effective learning system as it incorporates a sort of "game" style approach and "force-feed" your brain to remember the words. There are altogether 75 levels, each with 20 words, thus a total of 1500 essential words. I shall not say too much here as the program will speak for itself An abstract from the site that I find is pretty convincing. There are approximately 800 million native speakers of Mandarin, mainly in China. Are you interested in learning Mandarin? If so, you've come to the right site! ALBIS can help you learn Mandarin, by allowing you to rapidly absorb Mandarin vocabulary. ALBIS is a system designed to hammer you with the same words or expressions again and again until you have completely memorized them. Once you have fully memorized the 20 expressions in one level, you move on to the next level. Unlike flash cards, ALBIS forces you to come up with the correct term, with a prompt in your own language. There is a strict time limit. If you get it wrong, you have to start over again. This is similar to the situation you will encounter when trying to converse with someone in Mandarin: you'll have to find the right words quickly, without help. Anyway, the inputting of answers is in hanyu pinyin, and I've a problem with words like lu and lü, nu and nü, because I'm afraid that some users may not be able input them correctly, resulting in wrong answers. I'm think of substituting ü with nv or nuu but they are not phonetically correct. Any suggestions? Thanks Please do not hesitate to inform me of any problems, suggestions 请大家试试看ALBIS, 有什么意见请别迟疑,可以随时通知我。 Lastly, don't wait anymore! Try ALBIS out today Wishing you all the best in learning P.S. 会中文的朋友,老将们,有空也请多上ALBIS,评估一下它的水准,有什么错误的字眼请通知我,谢谢大家的支持。=) Quote
necroflux Posted March 11, 2006 at 11:19 AM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 11:19 AM Thanks Amego!!! I'm checking this out right now. Edit: My first thought is that it should include tones - i.e. shui3 for water. As of now there is no mention of tones for the words, during testing or study phase. You inputted all of this yourself? That's incredible, thanks a ton. Quote
horas Posted March 11, 2006 at 01:45 PM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 01:45 PM - amego, I still think you should put the United Kingdom/Great Britain flag for English, NOT the English flag. - Quote
horas Posted March 11, 2006 at 02:01 PM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 02:01 PM necroflux it should include tones * Yes, I agree with you. And the Chinese characters should be bigger and change places with the PinYin (which is much easier to decipher). - Quote
tamora Posted March 11, 2006 at 02:04 PM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 02:04 PM Great site! Thanks... I think I will try this out - also for other languages. Tamora Quote
JackP Posted March 11, 2006 at 03:10 PM Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 03:10 PM Is something wrong here, or is it blocked within China? Quote
amego Posted March 11, 2006 at 06:58 PM Author Report Posted March 11, 2006 at 06:58 PM Thanks Amego!!! I'm checking this out right now. Great site! Thanks...I think I will try this out - also for other languages. Tamora Yesterday 10:01 PM Thanx for your support and have fun! =p Edit: My first thought is that it should include tones - i.e. shui3 for water. As of now there is no mention of tones for the words, during testing or study phase. Well I wanted to add in the tones but my head told me not to as he wants it to be as simple and basic as possible =) But I'm sure as AlBIS develops, these issues will be resolved. You inputted all of this yourself? That's incredible, thanks a ton. Thanx, hmmm the basic infrastructure was done up by my head My job is to just translate =) My head is the great guy =) And he is a great guy too =p Yes, I agree with you. And the Chinese characters should be bigger and change places with the PinYin (which is much easier to decipher). Thanx for the suggestion, I see what you mean but Chinese characters can be a challenge to many beginners and the aim of this site is to be as simple and effective as possible. However, as future versions come along, users can set preferences like the inputting languages for answers =) Here's an extract from the site. Users will be able to set preferences. It is not yet certain exactly what options will be available, but here is one example: Currently, when learning Japanese, the default is that words are displayed in the Roman script. So this is what you see during the preview: kuuki In Version 2.0, advanced users who know the Japanese writing system will be able to specify that they want it displayed in Japanese. 空気 It will be possible to set such preferences according to language. Some other possible features are: an option for users to create their own glossaries, and memorize vocabulary of their own choosing (such as technical vocabulary), an option for groups of multiple users to see their progress and rankings on a chart, allowing them to have a competition to see who can clear levels the fastest. A lot depends on the general public's reaction to ALBIS over time. amego,I still think you should put the United Kingdom/Great Britain flag for English, NOT the English flag. I see, I'll inform my head. Thanx Is something wrong here, or is it blocked within China? Hmmm, I don't think so Perhaps its other things like high traffic? Meanwhile please continue to enjoy ALBIS and add suggestions. Thanx a million for your support Quote
roddy Posted March 12, 2006 at 12:17 AM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 12:17 AM I don't know what the reason is, but the link to the site isn't working from here in Beijing. However, even without looking I can tell you you should add tones If you want to make it simpler, cut down the amount of vocab you are presenting - much better to learn half of it well, than to learn half of all of it. Quote
amego Posted March 12, 2006 at 05:50 AM Author Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 05:50 AM I don't know what the reason is, but the link to the site isn't working from here in Beijing. Hmmm I'll try to figure why However, even without looking I can tell you you should add tones. Okie, I shall convince my boss Can you please get the Cantonese one arranged as soon as possible! Alright Very sorry for all the inconveniences Quote
Kong Junrui Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:22 AM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:22 AM Hey, I'm checking this out but I don't understand how this works. I clicked on the English flag on the front page, and made an account and everything, and looked in the drop-down menu for Chinese which isn't there. Is there something I'm doing wrong? How do I start the lessons? Thanks for your help, and I gotta say, the site looks pretty nice right now! Quote
Kong Junrui Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:24 AM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:24 AM Ah, never mind. Less than 30 seconds after posting that^ I realized I was supposed to click on Mandarin, which I didn't see. Whoops! Quote
necroflux Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:44 AM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:44 AM Amego, regarding tones your boss is definitely in the wrong - he must not understand the Chinese language to request that you leave them out, without tones it's very hard to get use from what would otherwise be a very useful site. Tell him necroflux said it's his way or the highway, that should scare him. Have you ever heard of Rosetta Stone? That is a program similar to what this site does, although it uses pictures instead and uses multiple choice instead of fill in the blank. I think the pictures are a good thing, however fill in the blank type tests force higher quality learning that multiple choice (I can memorize the correct answer out of four in short term memory, without any long term benefit.) Quote
tamora Posted March 12, 2006 at 03:28 PM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 03:28 PM Yeah, I agree to the other comments on adding tones. This should definitely be done for learners to get maximum benefit from this great site. Keep up the good work!! Tamora Quote
Lu Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:53 PM Report Posted March 12, 2006 at 06:53 PM I agree that you should definately add tones. Once talked with an American guy whose Chinese was quite fluent, good vocab too, could make conversation, but he spoke completely toneless. It just hurt my ears listerning to him, it was really atrocious Chinese he spoke. Quote
JackP Posted March 13, 2006 at 01:54 PM Report Posted March 13, 2006 at 01:54 PM Hmmm, I don't think so Perhaps its other things like high traffic? Well... The site is still not reachable in the normal way, but using anonymouse it is... Oh... I think you got the point already, but I think you should insert tone indicators Quote
amego Posted March 13, 2006 at 05:22 PM Author Report Posted March 13, 2006 at 05:22 PM HiHi everyone, I've already told my head this tone issue Anyway he added a REAL COOL feature!!! Users can now toggle between Roman and Chinese characters for previewing and inputting of answers!!! That's really great news for advanced learners P.S. Toggle by pressing the A|亞 buttons. Quote
necroflux Posted March 13, 2006 at 06:01 PM Report Posted March 13, 2006 at 06:01 PM Chinese character input - that's great! That actually incorporates tones in and of itself if one uses hanyu pinyin input (and forces themselves to use the tones while typing). Thanks and tell the boss thanks (unless he's not a good boss, then he get's a stern look of reluctant recognition hehe). Quote
amego Posted March 13, 2006 at 06:57 PM Author Report Posted March 13, 2006 at 06:57 PM Thanks and tell the boss thanks (unless he's not a good boss, then he get's a stern look of reluctant recognition hehe). Muhahah shhhh, not too loud, I told him to read this thread to read the suggestions..oops...haha... Anyway he's really a nice boss, very friendly *Both thumbs up* Nice working with him =p Quote
amego Posted September 24, 2006 at 10:46 AM Author Report Posted September 24, 2006 at 10:46 AM Hey guys, its been a long long time...好久不见,大家还好吧 anyway albis has moved to a new server, meaning that it can be access from China (hopefully), and feel free to check it out, many new features had been added, such as the much requested tones, of course its still not perfect, albis is still growing =) Check it out now! Quote
imron Posted September 25, 2006 at 01:09 AM Report Posted September 25, 2006 at 01:09 AM I would consider increasing the size of the font for Chinese characters. Using Firefox and going through the Preview section, the characters are tiny. Of course with Firefox I can always manually increase the font size, but it'd be nice if it was done automatically. Also, I'm not sure what your source is, however in level 1, I noticed a couple of discrepancies between Albis and my Xiandai Hanyu Cidian - not sure if this is just due to differences between Singapore/Mainland Mandarin. 石头 shítóu (second syllable should be neutral - shítou ) 树枝 shǔzhī (should be shù not shǔ - shùzhī) 土壤 túrǎng (should be tǔ not tú - tǔrǎng). Also, one other thing regarding the pinyin, for shǔi the tone should appear over the i - shuǐ and not the u. If you want to Albis be taken seriously as a tool for learning Mandarin, it's vital to make sure the information you're providing is error free, otherwise people won't have confidence in your program. Quote
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