Question: Jian Bing vs. Ji Dan Guan Bing

[crouchingdragon]

Can someone please tell me the difference between Jian Bing and Ji Dan Guan Bing ?

What does Guan mean here ?

thank you,

[elina]

According to 金山词霸，煎饼：thin pancake made of millet flour

鸡蛋灌饼，灌=倒，means pour (the egg into the pancake):

鸡蛋灌饼是一种盛行的早餐，它制作简单，把油刷在架在火炉上的大铁盘上，发好的面团在上面摊平成一张直径二十公分的饼，烤得半熟，用刀在饼壳子划一道口，顺势掀开，倒进调匀的鸡蛋和葱花，继续烤到两面微黄，鸡蛋和葱透出香味就好了。刷上酱，用纸一卷，配上豆浆、小米粥、糊辣汤，就是一餐美味又有营养的早点。

http://www.moo.cc/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=5&topic=2651

我吃过鸡蛋灌饼，好吃

[crouchingdragon]

However, unfortunately, I can't read Chinese Characters, so I was unable to understand your explanations.

It is possible to tell me in English ?

thank you,

[elina]

I am a Chinese, sorry my English is not good enough to translate it. I can only say: 鸡蛋灌饼 is a kind of popular breakfast in mainland China, pouring mixture of egg and chopped fistular onion into the pancake, it’s delicious.

[gougou]

Ok, no culinary etymologies from me, but here is what I remember from one or another roadside meal:

jianbing is a pancake about the size of a (big) plate, which is topped with sauce, herbs and something similar to youtiao (basically, flour fried in oil). The whole thing is then folded up and can replace a meal. I've never been able to eat more than two. (And when I did have two for breakfast, I would not be hungry in time for my lunch break!)

Looks about like this:

(Picture found here)

guanbing is about the size of your palm, and a bit thicker. A raw egg is filled into it, then the whole thing is placed onto a hot stone. Once the egg hardened, toppings, which can be sweet or spicy, are added and the thing is folded up. Of these, you're gonna need somewhere between 5 and 15 to fill you up, depending on your metabolism.

Roughly, this is what you get (although my street vendor does not provide a red table cloth!):

(Picture taken from here)

[Gary Soup]

I think the "guan" here means "filled" in the sense of "stuffed". Ji dan guan bing usually is a fat, disc-shaped pastry with the egg and whatever else fully enclosed. "jian bing" usually refers to a more crepe-like concoction, withe the crepe folded around egg, bean sauce, spices and crunchy piece of fried tofu skin or yu tiao.

Just yesterday I returned to the US from Shanghai where I became addicted to the jian bing made by a couple near our new Hongkou apartment. If made well, they are a really miraculous mix of textures and flavors. Ji dan guan bing are good and filling, but nowhere near a good jian bing in enjoyment, IMHO.

[roddy]

Matters close to my heart (in the form of cholesterol, I suspect).

Jidan guanbing is a pretty plain pancake fried on a griddle. While being fried the clever jidan guanbing maker uses chopsticks to somehow make a hole in the pancake and an egg is poured in. Fry till cooked. Serve with pickles, lajiao, whatever. photo

[skylee]

This discussion reminds me of our local (Hong Kong) snack 雞蛋仔 ... 最強民間美食 ... 從小吃到大 ...

[rose~]

I haven't seen Jian Bing in Shanghai, I thought they had been a victim of rapid development! Please tell me where you can get them!

Wow, gougou can eat 2 jian bing, that is quite impressive, I can only eat one, max.

To the original poster, jian bing is made of a thin pancake of ground green bean flour, topped with one egg, "香菜“ (coriander), hot bean paste, 甜麵醬 (sweet noodle sauce) and a 油條 or fried dough rectangle. It costs 2 yuan.

Edit:

OMG, you can watch woman making one on this link, it's all there, but she doesn't add coriander 香菜! food porn!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPUWgX8vkHI

From the same person, what he calls "Southern style dan bing", again, very similar to jian bing but no 香菜. I think this guy's technique is better than the first woman's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIw_XW-BTrc

[Gary Soup]

haven't seen Jian Bing in Shanghai, I thought they had been a victim of rapid development! Please tell me where you can get them!

It was on Huihe Lu just north of of Balin Lu. That's near Miyun Lu and Zhongshan Bei Er Lu, and just north of Tongji University. If you take the #123 bus, it's within sight of the last stop before the terminus, just after the bus turns from Miyun Lu onto Huihe Lu. It's also just around the corner from Cheng Feng Doujiang Dian, the big 24-hour cheap eats place that most Tongji students probably know (maybe Fudan students, too).

The jian bing are made by a couple, with the woman doing the actual cooking and the man breaking the egg and handing her the ingredients like the crispy fried dough. Her technique is similar to the woman in the video, though she DOES add coriander (thank God!) and she doesn't cut it wll the way through at the end, just folds it in two before it goes in the bag. She's very fast.

Only 1.7 yuan there!

[Gary Soup]

I haven't seen Jian Bing in Shanghai, I thought they had been a victim of rapid development! Please tell me where you can get them!

The videos you posted the links to may have been shot in Shanghai, since the poster also has several other videos of Shanghai and nowhere else (that I noticed) posted. I've sent him/her a message to try and find out where they were shot, at least the Northern-style jian bing, and will let you know if I find out.

[bhchao]

What's the difference between guanbing and cong you bing? The picture of guanbing in gougou's post looks like cong you bing.

[Gary Soup]

The picture of guanbing in gougou's post looks like cong you bing.

That it does, but apparently it's been filled with egg. Congyou bing (at least as I think of it) is never filled.

[rose~]

though she DOES add coriander (thank God!)

Good to see someone else who has their priorities straight! hehe...

Thanks Gary Soup!

1.7 yuan, eh? I feel particularly guilty now as ordered a pizza yesterday which cost over 100 yuan. That would feed me in jian bings for 50 days, especially as I am a light eater, if I eat one jian bing that is practically enough to eat for the whole day...

[Gary Soup]

More info for Rose~ :

According to the poster, the "Northern Style" jian bing in the YouTube video was shot on Guoding Lu in front of the Shanghai University of Finance and Economics main gate. They also sell rou jia mo there.

[rose~]

Thank you!

A classic from the site of the man who made the film:

I came to China to teach. I might stay for the Dan Bing.

http://www.daveinchina.com/archives/000341.html

[skylee]

I had my first jidan guanbing in chongwenmen market in BJ a couple of weeks ago. They actually poured an egg (or mixed egg) into the half-cooked crepe. Then they folded the crepe and put some lettuce and hot sauce inside. It was only RMB2 and went very well with doujiang (RMB1) as breakfast.

[cdn_in_bj]

What's the difference between guanbing and cong you bing? The picture of guanbing in gougou's post looks like cong you bing.

Guan bing is flakier, more oily. It also doesn't have green onion in the dough. Whereas cong you bing is usually heavier, less oily. Both are very tasty!

[Lu]

Congyou bing (at least as I think of it) is never filled.

I don't know about guanbing, but at the congyoubing (hm, I though it was chongyoubing) lady at the night market you can choose if you want the bing with egg or without.

Actually jianbing are better than congyoubing, in my memory, but I haven't seen them here.