Namehaver Posted July 26, 2006 at 06:14 PM Report Posted July 26, 2006 at 06:14 PM To what extent can the subject of a sentence be dropped? Are there any specific rules as to when this should be done? I seens that directly after the subject has ben mentioned, you can drop it for a scentence, for example, 你有我的猫马。没有。 In the reply, the subject is left out. And in certain clauses this also seems to be allowed 我看电视以后吃午饭。 他唱歌的时候游泳。 In sentences like that, it seems to be okay to leave out that "I" that in english we would stick in. But, how often can this be done? I am familiar with japanese, which drops or implies the subject nearly in every sentence. You can say "I" once, and not say it again until the subject is changed. Is chinese that flexible with its subject dropping, or do you need to continue to say "I" in every sentence? Or am I just confused? Quote
HashiriKata Posted July 27, 2006 at 06:01 AM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 06:01 AM You're on the whole correct. The subject, object, etc. on the whole can be (and should be) dropped in Chinese, Japanese (and many other), as long as it can be understood in the context of communication. (There're a very small number of situations where the subject is not dropped, but you shouldn't be too concerned about this for now.) Quote
gougou Posted July 27, 2006 at 08:54 AM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 08:54 AM The example you gave technically does not leave out the subject, it just negates the verb (which is the Chinese way of saying "no".) For the other two sentences, you can leave out the subject if it has been mentioned before (e.g. if you were to say these two sentences right after each other, you might possibly leave out the 我 in the first sentence, but not the 他 in the second one. Unless you wanted to be ambiguous, but that is usually not done in Chinese ) Quote
tanhql Posted July 27, 2006 at 09:38 AM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 09:38 AM chinese is only partially subject dropping. even in cases where the subject is understood, in some cases, dropping the subject can be a little bit wierd. some examples: (你)在喝什么? (你)回家后要做什么? 今天(老师)有给功课吗? 明天(我们)要叫什么功课? Quote
skylee Posted July 27, 2006 at 12:32 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 12:32 PM 他唱歌的时候游泳。 is this possible? Quote
HashiriKata Posted July 27, 2006 at 02:44 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 02:44 PM 他唱歌的时候游泳。 is this possible?No! It can probably improve with some swapping of the verbs:他游泳的时候, 喜欢唱歌。 Quote
skylee Posted July 27, 2006 at 03:33 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 03:33 PM 他游泳的时候, 喜欢唱歌。 is this possible? Quote
anonymoose Posted July 27, 2006 at 03:59 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 03:59 PM is this possible? 在死海里游泳的时候,唱歌、看报纸都可以。 Quote
semantic nuance Posted July 27, 2006 at 04:01 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 04:01 PM Yes, it's possible when the swimmer keeps his head out of water all the time. You know, 抬頭蛙的游法. Quote
HashiriKata Posted July 27, 2006 at 04:11 PM Report Posted July 27, 2006 at 04:11 PM 他游泳的时候, 喜欢唱歌。 is this possible?好的!: 他洗澡的时候, 喜欢唱歌。 Is this possible? Quote
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