anonymoose Posted August 6, 2006 at 06:23 PM Report Posted August 6, 2006 at 06:23 PM What is the function of 要 in this sentence? Could it be omitted without changing the meaning? 有时学习速度 甚至比其他孩子还要慢。 I'm guessing it has no real function. It is just included because of prosodic necessity. Quote
tanhql Posted August 7, 2006 at 05:27 AM Report Posted August 7, 2006 at 05:27 AM it is needed to show the intensity of the slowness. it's like 'sometimes the studying speed is even slower than other children'. also, 甚至比 ... 还要 almost always goes to together. Quote
anonymoose Posted August 7, 2006 at 11:10 AM Author Report Posted August 7, 2006 at 11:10 AM Thanks, tanhql, that's helpful. Quote
pattifranklin Posted August 8, 2006 at 04:59 PM Report Posted August 8, 2006 at 04:59 PM I agree with tanhql. it simply emphasizes the slowness. After looking over the definitions of 要, it may be related to demand. I guess you could say that so and so demands even more slowness. I don't think slowness is a word, but you get the point. Quote
againstwind Posted September 9, 2006 at 04:09 PM Report Posted September 9, 2006 at 04:09 PM What is the function of 要 in this sentence? Could it be omitted without changing the meaning? yes, it could. I'm guessing it has no real function Actually, 要 in this context has a function that acts as an adverb meaning an estimate, which is often used in a comparison. 要 could be used before or after ' 比……''. e.g. 有时(他的)学习速度甚至比其他孩子还要慢。 有时(他的)学习速度甚至要比其他孩子还慢。 And in this context,要 could be omitted without changing any meaning. 有时(他的)学习速度甚至比其他孩子还慢。 Some other examples: 他(要)比我走得慢些。[=他比我(要)走得慢些。=他比我走得(要)慢些。] On tanhql's opinion, it's reasonable,but I'm not sure. Actually, I think in '甚至比 ... 还要' it should be '甚至' and '还' that have the function of emphasis. Quote
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