林彪 Posted February 29, 2004 at 04:27 AM Report Posted February 29, 2004 at 04:27 AM The only Chinese dictionary I could find this character in was CEDICT, but the pronounciation they gave was "yo", which does not exist in Pinyin. Does anyone know how to pronounce it? Here's the character, in case you can't see it above: Quote
nnt Posted February 29, 2004 at 05:12 AM Report Posted February 29, 2004 at 05:12 AM The Chinese to English Dictionary by Shanghai Jiao Tong University Press (2 vol) gives two Pinyin for this character: yo1 (which means "oh") and yo , particle Quote
林彪 Posted February 29, 2004 at 06:06 AM Author Report Posted February 29, 2004 at 06:06 AM But "yo" doesn't exist in Pinyin. Quote
nnt Posted February 29, 2004 at 06:32 AM Report Posted February 29, 2004 at 06:32 AM It does (same proof as for the pudding) . Quote
smithsgj Posted March 1, 2004 at 03:31 AM Report Posted March 1, 2004 at 03:31 AM 唷 is yo. As in aiyo I suppose. 喲 - I thought that was the final particle 'ye'. Bit childish? As in 哇!我贏了喲! But I can't compose it either. Quote
nnt Posted March 1, 2004 at 04:07 AM Report Posted March 1, 2004 at 04:07 AM The following character has been entered by typing "yo" using 全拼 PRC IME under Windows 2000 and the first (and not last character) in the list corresponding to "yo" is (let's guess....): 哟 But just look up in a paper dictionary! and you can go there: http://www.xztc.edu.cn/yxdh/chinese/yqz/index.9.htm to enjoy the pudding: (四)汉语中有“io”韵母和吸气音 现代汉语韵母系统中没有“io〔уО〕”韵母,但在叹词里却有由“io”韵母独立构成的音节。如 “哟”,作为叹词,《词典》注音为“yo”,“表示轻微的惊异(有时带玩笑的语气)。”“哟”原可 以与其它音节组成双音节叹词,如“表示惊讶、痛苦等”的“哎哟”,《词典》里对其中的“哟”仍注 音为“yo”。再如“唷”,虽不能单独用作叹词,但它作为双音节叹词的构成音节,其读音仍为“yo”, 如叹词“哼唷”、“喔唷”中的“唷”。 Quote
smithsgj Posted March 1, 2004 at 04:29 AM Report Posted March 1, 2004 at 04:29 AM Paper dictionary has last word. But how does one write that 'ye' I said? Quote
林彪 Posted March 1, 2004 at 09:48 AM Author Report Posted March 1, 2004 at 09:48 AM Can you translate this part? My Chinese is not good enough to read it. 现代汉语韵母系统中没有“io〔уО〕”韵母,但在叹词里却有由“io”韵母独立构成的音节。如 “哟”,作为叹词,《词典》注音为“yo”,“表示轻微的惊异(有时带玩笑的语气)。”“哟”原可 以与其它音节组成双音节叹词,如“表示惊讶、痛苦等”的“哎哟”,《词典》里对其中的“哟”仍注 音为“yo”。再如“唷”,虽不能单独用作叹词,但它作为双音节叹词的构成音节,其读音仍为“yo”, 如叹词“哼唷”、“喔唷”中的“唷”。 Quote
nnt Posted March 1, 2004 at 01:10 PM Report Posted March 1, 2004 at 01:10 PM A quick translation: The final 'io' (yo) does not exist in modern Chinese set of finals, but it can be found as a standalone syllabe (word) in exclamations. For example, “哟” used as an exclamation has "yo" as phonetic transcription in the dictionary, and "expresses slight astonishment, sometimes in a joking tone". “哟”with "yo" as phonetic transcription, can be combined with another character to form a dissyllabic interjection, as in “哎哟” expressing astonishment or pain. As for “唷”, although not a standalone word, it can be used in combination to form a dissyllabic interjection as in “哼唷”、“喔唷”, and is pronounced "yo". Quote
Lu Posted March 4, 2004 at 03:35 PM Report Posted March 4, 2004 at 03:35 PM 我赢了耶!I thought that 耶 was classical Chinese... I must be mistaken. Quote
skylee Posted March 4, 2004 at 11:15 PM Report Posted March 4, 2004 at 11:15 PM 我赢了耶![/quote']I thought that 耶 was classical Chinese... I must be mistaken. It is OK to use it like this here. Quote
smithsgj Posted March 5, 2004 at 02:11 AM Report Posted March 5, 2004 at 02:11 AM Classical Chinese often uses 也 as a final particle. Is there a character o耶? Or even o也? I think I may have seen these? Quote
nnt Posted March 5, 2004 at 08:57 PM Report Posted March 5, 2004 at 08:57 PM " O yeah " is 100% English, as found in many Chinese HK songs... Quote
skylee Posted March 5, 2004 at 11:01 PM Report Posted March 5, 2004 at 11:01 PM " O yeah " is 100% English, as found in many Chinese HK songs... I think smith meant to add a "口" beside "耶" and "也" (we often add a lower case "O" on the left of a word when we want to type a Cantonese character like these), instead of "O yeah". No, I don't think there are "o耶" or "o也". Quote
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