roddy Posted May 25, 2008 at 02:40 AM Report Posted May 25, 2008 at 02:40 AM (edited) A part of the Grand First Episode Project -- See this thread for more info. 25th May: 北京人在纽约 - Jiang Wen stars in a tale of Chinese emigrants making their way in New York Youku - Emule This is a really nice show I think. We get to meet new arrivals in New York, 王启明 and wife 郭燕, following them from an incomprehensible airport to a dingy basement, picking up debts and scaring off good Samaritans on the way. I'm sure plenty of us on here related to 王启明's communication issues through the show. We also get to meet a few supporting characters - the 无情无义 restaurant boss, the evil sweatshop owner (who is that guy, I'm sure I've seen him elsewhere.) I'm quite tempted to watch more of this, I'm keen to see how our friends make out. I think I've watched a few episodes before but didn't get very far, possibly as at the time the lack of subtitles was more of a hindrance. This time I'd say it's pretty easy to understand - the language is all fairly standard and it isn't delivered very quickly. Edited February 9, 2010 at 02:12 PM by renzhe Quote
imron Posted May 25, 2008 at 02:53 AM Report Posted May 25, 2008 at 02:53 AM I watched all of this series way back when it was first mentioned on the forums and found it overall quite interesting, although in some places the story seems to jump around a bit and major plot points seem to just happen out of thin air. One of the final scenes (perhaps the final one? I forget) is quite interesting, as everything has come full-circle and you have 王启明 picking up a friend from the airport and basically dumping him in the same place he was dumped in all those years ago. Quote
renzhe Posted June 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM Report Posted June 14, 2008 at 10:37 PM (edited) This was really interesting. Unlike any other shows we've watched (even 好想好想谈恋爱), this actually doesn't feel like a Chinese show. It feels like an 80s American show with Chinese actors. This is not necessarily good, or bad, only interesting, and it gives the show a specific feel. Roddy is right, the culture shock of the first episode will resonate with many posters here, and the leading couple evoke sympathy. I found the first episode interesting, and it has a nice, melancholic feel to it. The lack of subtitles will scare some people off, but the language is quite easy to follow. EDIT: Since we'd like to get some discussion going in here, what exactly did he say to the restaurant owner that offended her? I gathered that he didn't quite realise she was the boss, and didn't show the necessary respect, but didn't quite catch the exact meaning. Edited July 2, 2009 at 06:30 PM by renzhe Quote
imron Posted June 15, 2008 at 02:03 AM Report Posted June 15, 2008 at 02:03 AM Which part are you talking about? There are a few parts that cause him to offend her At the beginning when they're talking, she doesn't realise he's just there to 打工, and she asks him what he thinks of the restaurant, and he says overall it's quite good, but he doesn't think much of the music. Specifically, he says: 实话实说吧,我觉得有点太闹 Which causes her to get a bit upset, so she ends the conversation and goes to leave. Then afterwards, when he realises she's in charge, and she realises he's there to 打工, they're talking, and she asks him what kind of work he expects to do, and after a bit of to-ing and fro-ing where he says of course he's not there to play the cello, he says 其实也无所谓,肯定看着安排。非常抱歉,我以前到餐馆来都是吃饭,从来没想到要干什么。 to which she replies: 那就请你马上离开这个地方。 Then there's a bit more to-ing and fro-ing and then they have the following exchange: Wang: 这么说,您是不想要我? Boss: 我的意思是说,如果你还可以唱两句的话,我真的可以考虑 (all the restaurant staff laugh) Wang: 您贵性 Boss: 我叫阿春 Wang: (angrily) 你还知道你叫什么!(slams hand on bar and walks out). Then she calls him back, because he hasn't yet paid for the beer. Quote
renzhe Posted June 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM Report Posted June 15, 2008 at 11:49 AM Thanks, that helps. I roughly got the meaning, but I didn't quite realise why saying that the restaurant was too loud would offend here. Reading the whole thing was useful. Quote
imron Posted June 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM Report Posted June 15, 2008 at 12:23 PM I think any criticism he said here would have had the same effect. She'd just been flattering him, and he turns around and says well your place is nice and all, but this part sucks. Quote
renzhe Posted June 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM Report Posted June 15, 2008 at 12:35 PM Yeah, and she's not exactly the warmest person in the world either. Quote
Gleaves Posted September 8, 2009 at 05:58 PM Report Posted September 8, 2009 at 05:58 PM Shows without subtitles kick my butt, so this one was no different. It seemed quality enough, but it rubs me the wrong way when a show just doesn't feel Chinese, like this and 好想好想谈恋爱. All the same, I'd like to pick this one back up when lack of subtitles isn't such a hinderance. I am curious to see how much of a jerk the fedora wearing fella turns out to be. I just pray that Wang gets a haircut at some point, as I find his hair in his face pretty infuriating. Quote
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