SigurEyes Posted November 9, 2005 at 06:46 AM Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 at 06:46 AM Hello, I have a quick question. I studied Chinese for a year last year in college but due to class conflicts, I was unable to continue with Chinese this year. I decided about a week ago though that I would like to do some self-study. Last year, I used Beginning Chinese by DeFrancis (it's a green book, no characters but in depth grammar) and Elementary Chinese Readers Book 1. I recently bought ECR2 (it's for the 2nd year level at my school). I was wondering though, what others I should use and how many characters they have in them if people know the approximate amount. I heard that the New Practical Chinese Reader is good (it has 1-4 published and 5-6 will be published soon). I also heard that ECR has a total of 4 books. How many characters do these books teach in all and which one would you recommend? I've been told that "A New China" http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0691010455/qid=1131518690/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/102-5733642-7838503?v=glance&s=books is good. Can someone give any recommendations? Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klortho Posted November 9, 2005 at 01:18 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 at 01:18 PM I like the New Practical Chinese Reader a lot, as I mentioned in this thread: http://www.chinese-forums.com/index.php?/topic/5993-new-practical-chinese-reader-good-books. I'm working my way through book two at the moment. You mentioned that books 5 and 6 will be published soon, but I know that I've seen at least book 5 already at the bookstore. NPCR has audio tapes and a workbook that come with it, too. As for the number of characters, here's a count (from the character index in the back) of the characters in book 1: 420. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celso Pin Posted November 9, 2005 at 02:51 PM Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 at 02:51 PM and i ever post the same (of course...) try to take a look in the courses at www.eblcu.net and the use the "backdoor" access to these courses: www.eblcu.net/lesson/ tell us later what do you think about these courses. the H101 contains 2800 chinese words and 1700 characteres. regards and good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SigurEyes Posted November 9, 2005 at 08:20 PM Author Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 at 08:20 PM Thanks for the info. I didn't realize that book 5 had been published. Also, the website seems interesting but it works rather sporadically over my computer. I'll keep on looking at it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kudra Posted November 10, 2005 at 02:47 AM Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 at 02:47 AM http://www.yale.edu/fep/catalog/standard2.html The series by Huang and Stimson has 2 sets of books, vol 1,2 spoken, and vol 1-4 written. The written volumes have both traditional and simplified. that link shows the number of characters for each volume in the written series. the prices are probably old. If you are interested I can post an mp3 of a dialog from the 1st lesson in the vol2 of the spoken series. I am not sure how, so I'd need help from roddy. A typical course at Yale in the mid-late 80's would cover vols 1 of the spoken and written series in semester 1, vols 2 in sem 2, then written vol3 and written vol4 in the 3 and 4 semesters. Yale is now using David and Helen in China for its 2nd year course. (I don't know what they use for their 1st year course) I use D+H for listening and "practical" vocabulary practice. http://www.columbia.edu/itc/ealac/zhang/dh/dh_audioclips.htm is the link for all the audio files. Think ipod/daily commute. http://classes.yale.edu/chns130/ has a bunch of supplemental materials for D+H. The Huang and Stimson books are of the same era or slightly after the DeFrancis books if I remember correctly, so if presentation style matters that might be important too you. You could ask your teachers from last year what they recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdejarne Posted April 23, 2006 at 03:37 AM Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 at 03:37 AM Where's the best place to purchase the NPCR and the audio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elina Posted April 23, 2006 at 04:18 PM Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 at 04:18 PM I don’t know if it’s the BEST place to purchase NPCR, I just would like to say: on our site, we have the entire series of NPCR for sale: New Practical Chinese Reader Textbook (1)+DVD USD 11.00 http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/detail.php?gid=470593&userid=7912&catid=662814 New Practical Chinese Reader Textbook (2)+DVD USD 12.25 http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/detail.php?gid=470595&userid=7912&catid=662814 New Practical Chinese Reader Textbook (3) USD 7.25 http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/detail.php?gid=318189&userid=7912&catid=662814 New Practical Chinese Reader Textbook (4) USD 8.38 http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/detail.php?gid=318196&userid=7912&catid=662814 New Practical Chinese Reader Textbook (5) USD 7.38 http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/detail.php?gid=412826&userid=7912&catid=662814 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdejarne Posted April 24, 2006 at 01:38 AM Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 at 01:38 AM I live in the U.S. what's the cost for shipping overseas from China? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novemberfog Posted April 24, 2006 at 03:42 AM Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 at 03:42 AM For grammar, I like the Routledge Beginning and Intermediate Chinese Grammars. They are largely intended for self study, and I learned a lot from them. For characters, hmm, I prefer just to work through "Reading & Writing Chinese" by William McNaughton and Li Ying. It is a nice reference book for beginning and intermediate students as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephanhodges Posted April 24, 2006 at 01:15 PM Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 at 01:15 PM Elina, I looked on your site. It was not obvious to me what shipping costs would be (without actually placing an order). Can you give a rough estimate of what the actual shipping costs to the USA would be for one or all of the books you mention? Also, do you know what the shipping durations are from shipment to arrival? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elina Posted April 24, 2006 at 07:49 PM Report Share Posted April 24, 2006 at 07:49 PM Nearly at the bottom of the homepage, there is a link of “Distributing Method, Cost and Time” http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/fsql.php?id=217544&userid=7912 And the payment method: http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/fsql.php?id=217547&userid=7912 Something about us: http://shop.aaawww.net/mod8/fsql.php?id=218326&userid=7912 Some of our customers write their enquiries and needs to the email address on our website, which is the same with actually placing an order. We always give a reply within one working day. Please note: from April 29 to May 7, we will take a rest for the National Public Holidays: 五一国际劳动节. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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