roddy Posted January 1, 2007 at 07:47 AM Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 07:47 AM Has anyone flown Oasis yet? Also see this Guardian article on possible future routes from other airlines. Quote
onebir Posted January 1, 2007 at 12:40 PM Author Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 12:40 PM "The newspaper quoted a source familiar with the discussions as saying that fares on the long-haul network would be as low as £14 for destinations in China." Do they mean from Europe to China??? I tried looking for the original article in the star business pages but couldn't find it.... Quote
adrianlondon Posted January 1, 2007 at 01:15 PM Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 01:15 PM I assume, as the Guardian article talks about the airline being based at KL's cheapo airport, that this is for flights from Malaysia. Quote
onebir Posted January 1, 2007 at 02:26 PM Author Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 02:26 PM That would make more sense. And the lowest price they mention 'to Britain' is GBP43... The thing that threw me is this reference: fares on the long-haul network would be as low as £14 for destinations in China. Is China-Malaysia long-haul? Anyway, it all sounds pretty tentative at the moment. But it'll be great if it brings another LCC into the far east AND increases competition on China-SEAsia flights, which are much more expensive than flights within SEAsia have become over the last few years. Quote
adrianlondon Posted January 1, 2007 at 02:35 PM Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 02:35 PM Is China-Malaysia long-haul? On a budget airline seat? I'd say it is Quote
onebir Posted January 1, 2007 at 03:29 PM Author Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 03:29 PM On a budget airline seat? I'd say it is Depends how big you are ;-) Found the original malaysia star story And the GBP14 reference: " “The fare Malaysians and the rest of the world will be looking at is as low as RM100 (=14GBP) for destinations in China,” said a source familiar with the discussions." "Malaysians and the rest of the world" taken literally would include Europe -> China, but it does seem unlikely. So the story was unclear before Guardian journalists got their hands on it... Quote
gougou Posted January 1, 2007 at 04:10 PM Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 04:10 PM Do they mean from Europe to China???Based on the original article, I take it that there will be no direct flights from Europe to China. They're saying "and the rest of the world" simply because foreigners obviously also can fly from Malaysia to China. Quote
onebir Posted January 1, 2007 at 04:56 PM Author Report Posted January 1, 2007 at 04:56 PM Anyway... I did find some reviews here. Sounds like they had problems early on, but they're fine now. Quote
onebir Posted January 6, 2007 at 10:00 AM Author Report Posted January 6, 2007 at 10:00 AM It turns out Airasia had plans for a long-haul budget carrier, but not an alliance, see: CNN report "Online sale of tickets will begin next month for initial service to Tianjin and Hangzhou in China, and to either Manchester or London in the United Kingdom." Malaysia's daily express report "AirAsia X would stick to the business model of tight cost control and offer low fares with one way flight to United Kingdom starting from RM9.99. "Low fares attract volume," he said, adding that the average ticket price would be at least 50 percent cheaper than the current air ticket prices." " :) "Chan said that AirAsia X has been given the right to fly to destinations that Malaysia Airlines (MAS) was not flying into." (Which appears to mean airports as opposed to cities (MAS flies KL-London, but London is a potential route mentioned above.) Quote
onebir Posted January 9, 2007 at 10:01 AM Author Report Posted January 9, 2007 at 10:01 AM I just called Oasis Hongkong to check their one-way ticket policy and they told me: 1) they won't let UK passport holders fly one way to HK without an onward ticket 2) telling them you want to go to mainland china by train (suggested here) won't cut it... but 3) they know they're one of 'very few' airlines with this policy, and they've asked head office if they could change it (and in the mean time document it on the website so online bookers don't get shafted) Quote
roddy Posted May 23, 2007 at 12:06 PM Report Posted May 23, 2007 at 12:06 PM Am flying Oasis out of HK next week, so will report back - they seem to get pretty good reviews though. Also, they've signed up to the Skypier system at HKIA. This means you can fly into Shenzhen, take the free bus to the ferry terminal, do a pre-check in procedure (where they check you'll actually be able to fly so you don't get stuck airside), take the ferry to HKIA where you check in 'properly' at the pier, then take a bus to airside. Flying direct to HK will still be the easier option, but if you are counting the pennies this might work out cheaper, without the hassle of an overland route. Probably won't make much difference though. Of course, you do get to go on a boat Quote
adrianlondon Posted May 23, 2007 at 01:30 PM Report Posted May 23, 2007 at 01:30 PM They must be doing OK, as it's forced some (maybe short term) reduction in pricing. Air New Zealand has a return from London to HK for £300 inclusive. BA reduced the price of their return from London to Beijing from £640 to £400 for a limited period. Unfortunately, I'd already booked (Air China, £410) before BA announced their offer. Hopefully, the lack of a seat-back TV screen won't be too much of a discomfort. Air China has much better times though. Quote
cdn_in_bj Posted May 23, 2007 at 01:42 PM Report Posted May 23, 2007 at 01:42 PM Air China has much better times though. And dare I ask, "better" flight attendants too? Quote
onebir Posted May 23, 2007 at 02:29 PM Author Report Posted May 23, 2007 at 02:29 PM I flew Oasis HK. The flight was fine (but bring a toothbrush &/ extra socks if your feet get cold - they're not included). There could be issues on your return flight (since it's effectively a one way to China). See this thread Quote
adrianlondon Posted May 23, 2007 at 02:40 PM Report Posted May 23, 2007 at 02:40 PM And dare I ask, "better" flight attendants too? I'll let you know after Friday ;) I'm assuming better food as well. Quote
cdn_in_bj Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:04 AM Report Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:04 AM I'm assuming better food as well. I wouldn't keep your hopes up on that, but do let us know. Anyways, have a nice trip! Quote
flameproof Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:28 AM Report Posted May 24, 2007 at 01:28 AM You have to be aware that only a very small minority gets the low price. Maybe 10%. The rest will pay more, and more. Bringing the price near other airlines. So, really compare prices. Plus a coke or a beer is Euro 3.00 or so. Plus it really works best if London is your final destination. I just booked Cathy to EU in the high season for HK$5300 (plus tax). PS: I flew ones Ryan from Italy to UK for €14.95. With Taxes it was then about €40-50 - still dead cheap. However, you book a bit later prices go easily up to 200+ for short notice flyer's. Flight was much better then expected, quite nice. Ryan is top! Quote
onebir Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:05 AM Author Report Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:05 AM You have to be aware that only a very small minority gets the low price. Maybe 10%. The percentage getting low prices seems to be a bit higher with Oasis. I flew on a 60-70% full plane, but a fellow passenger who'd booked the day before the flight paid only GBP200 or so (in taxes). Hopefully, the lack of a seat-back TV screen won't be too much of a discomfort There's seat-back TV on the Oasis flights, but less choice of films than on BA etc. (But maybe Adrian's flying Air NZ - & they don't have it?) Quote
flameproof Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:22 AM Report Posted May 24, 2007 at 04:22 AM There's seat-back TV on the Oasis flights, They have only 2 machines, and both are from SQ. So they have the little screen (as long as the previous owner had them). Do you have to pay for the headphones? Having to pay for beer would be no issue in the past, just bring your own. But with the new 100ml regulation you can't bring liquids onboard. I just checked some prices for one way: HK>UK gbp 169 + 279 (normal and flexi) gbp 169 is HK$2650 before taxes. Or gbp209 (HK$3260 after taxes) A complete return trip is gbp425, or HK$6630 You can check yourself other dates: http://www.oasishongkong.com My CX flight (HK>UK>Helsinki + return) is HK$5360 + Tax 1752 = 7112 And that's in July, high season. What I want to say is: don't simply think that budget airlines are always much cheaper. Really go out and compare prices. Also, with CX my EU flight is included. With Oasis I would have to pay it extra. Then it would be way more expensive. Quote
adrianlondon Posted May 24, 2007 at 09:09 AM Report Posted May 24, 2007 at 09:09 AM but maybe Adrian's flying Air NZ - & they don't have it? I'm flying Air China from LHR to PEK. Sorry, I went a bit off topic. Quote
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